Talk:Gainesville, Florida

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Fernandina Beach seems more likely, though that's not what I have in my notes. I'll check the book I was consulting (last year, when considering making a documentary on Gainesville history--a missed opportunity, to be sure, to bore the hell out of anyone who watched it). --KQ

Well there is a Fernandina Beach, I've been there, and Ram-Man has also visited. There might be a Fernandina too, of course, like Miami and Miami Beach, Jacksonville and Jacksonville Beach, etc. Go Gators!

Should the history include those horrible murders? Ortolan88

There is also a Fernandina which existed in the 1850s.  :-) And yes, the article most certainly should include the murders. There is a graffiti wall in the city on 34th street; anyone can paint anything on the wall without repercussion, but a center section has been dedicated to the victims since shortly after it happened. New people to the town would frequently paint over that dedication, not realizing its significance, always provoking a flurry of outraged editorials; the city eventually planted five trees in the median of 34th street and dedicated each one to a victim. --KQ

Last week there was another outraged editorial about a fraternity that painted over the dedication. --KQ 23:41 Nov 4, 2002 (UTC)

Why should the murders be included in the article when someone else was told off for putting stuff on the Sydney gang rapes in the Sydney article? --- Anonymoues 06:15 Oct 26, 2002 (UTC)

Well, I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, if it's factual, it's fair to include it.  :-) The murders are still an issue in the town, to be sure. --KQ

Well, the gang rapes are an issue in Sydney, and will be important historically anyway as part of the history of Sydney's ethnic relations. m:2000 Sydney, Australia Gang Rapes is entirely factual, but I was forced to remove it by people calling it "non-encyclopedic"... -- Anonymoues 06:23 Oct 26, 2002 (UTC)

Interesting. I don't know the background of that--either the rapes, or the wikipedia controversy. Maybe if you mentioned more of the controversy in Sydney itself? Also, drop or clarify the "racist" issue: Catholicism is not a race, nor is Europeanism. Race itself is quite a tricky issue; and charges of racism should be avoided. Better would be to provide original quotes which seem clearly to be racist, without labelling them as such.

I'd advise writing it again, clarifying and attributing as much as possible. Give original quotes (e.g. the "bash a Catholic" one) and try not to draw conclusions or lead the reader to them.  :-) If it's been controversial in Sydney, as far as I'm concerned it's significant enough to add. My 2¢ anyway. Cheers, & good luck with it. :-) --KQ

The Sydney controversy had to do with the fact that the information on the rapes took up over half of the entire Sydney article, and the racial profiling of the perpetrators was more than a little NPOV. What is there now is still, IMHO, more than necessary, but considerably less that it was. -- Zoe

[edit] In-N-Out Burger

Can any "feet on the street" confirm or deny this. Wikibofh_(talk) 15:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not a "real" In-N-Out but simply the name of a small burger joint in East Gainesville. There's no connection between this place and the In-N-Out chain.

I posted a followup on this to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:In-N-Out_Burger#Florida_In-N-Out. Regards, chris (11/18/2006)

[edit] Southernmost "deciduous" city"

The article stated that Gainesville was the southernmost city which has "predominantly" deciduous trees. That's not true. Many cities in Polk County are predominantly deciduous, including Bartow nicknamed the "City of Oaks." Jcam 01:41, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

While you're right that Oak trees are certainly not limited to Gainesville (and also are an important symbol of places as far South as Miami, Fl)- Gainesville features many other types of desiduous trees that can't survive south of Ocala, Fl. There's a botany class that discusses this at the University of Florida.

[edit] Demographics

I noticed that the demographics section concerning race adds up to 106.41%. I haven't taken any statistics classes, but for some reason this doesn't seem right. :P Furthermore, the demographics concerning age add up to 100.1%, but that seems like a negligible amount to me.

Is this variation normal for demographics (I realize most demographics numbers are estimates), and if not, does anyone have the real numbers? --EndTasked 03:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Beginning with the 2000 census, respondents were able to select more than one race when describing themselves, thus the total of all races can be more than 100%. See [1] (page 7 and page 8 of the PDF file or pages 2 and 3 of the original document, including figure 3). Bobomatic