Talk:G.I. Joe: The Movie

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I'm a big follower of G.J. Joe Areal American Hero comic books Whne the movie came out lots of fans of the comic book asl a lot of questions regarding the relationship of the cartoon series to the comic books

I forgot the name of the person (as of this writing) from Marvel Comics who answered the questions and he answered "The G.I. Joe Comic books has no relationship to the catoon series" (or something to that effect) ( I'm going to edit this by next week as I'm going to search my comic book collection and write the actual quote as well as the name of the Marvel spokesperson)Monz 06:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Rewrite, and removal of the eyesore warning tags from top of the page, with my edits as follows:

• I excised the opening citation of "critical" failure of the Transformers film, which is an irrelevant secondary concern against box office revenue: the G.I.Joe movie was preempted from threatrical release for the very practical (financial) reason that the market climate was deemed unreceptive to sustain said animated feature following poor returns from the more popular Transformers property, not giving a fig whether the movie's quality (essentially aimed at selling new toys to kids) might artistically appeal to critics. (Since when has that stopped Hollywood?)

• I got rid of the "insectoid..." multi-label describing the citizens of Cobra-La. The people are in no way insectoid, aside from elements of costume design assigned to the soldiers. The inhabitants are more akin to reptillian holdovers by divergent evolution — hence their COBRA hallmark — with their civilization largely based in arthropod domestication (although all of this poses more than a few science errors in terms of evolutionary biology... like why would reptile-people fairing poorly against an encroaching ice age puzzlingly retreat to the frosty Himalayas rather than a tropical destination? By the way, arthropods are not strictly insects.) Notice that the Joes are able to magically traverse the distance halfway around the planet from their U.S. base of operations in mere hours — in the case of Jinx and crew, flying there by no less than clunky helicopter... >__>

• Regarding the screen time imbalance of Joe team regulars who were given only minor walk-through roles: Even though I left that paragraph in, it seems a kind of pointless fannish complaint given that the specific purpose of the story was to introduce Falcon as a central player, alongside other newcomers. With dozens of characters occupying the stage, there's only so much stuff you can squeeze into the allotted time in a meaningful way, so it's unreasonable to expect a parade of the entire toyline in front of the camera. Also, had this gone to theatre as planned, Don Johnson's name would likely have featured big in marketing (coming directly on the heels of Miami Vice), so his story presence should have to be noteworthy.

• Another questionable criticism (repeated in Cobra Commander's Wiki profile) is that the movie's science fiction leanings were somehow a harsh departure from the TV show — this ignoring the fact that the series showcased such fantasy nonsense as ghost hauntings, love potions, parallel dimensions, cloned dinosaurs, mind control, shrink rays, giant fruit, synthoid imposters, the Egyptian pantheon, and "Fatal Fluffies" (cousins to Ewoks and Ro-Bears, haha)... not to mention the old standby of pilots always ejecting and parachuting to safety.

• Screen caps swapped out: The page had(/has) too many useless shots exclusively from the movie's intro sequence crowding space (to no effect) instead of using pictures more productively to illustrate the text describing Duke's controversial "coma", new Joes, etc.

• In the closing paragraphs, I removed the line that read, Ironically, it was Duke's scripted death that led to Optimus Prime's death, because I don't see how this non sequitur follows. The hindsight observation that negative reaction to OP's death saved Duke from a similar fate can't be reverse-engineered into saying that Duke therefore incited OP's death. It would be more accurate to say that the delayed production of the G.I.Joe film left Optimus to take a fatal beating by being the first one to test the unfriendly cinematic waters before the watchful circling of parental vultures forced the slapping of a giant dialogue bandaid on Duke's bloody chest — but there's nothing "ironic" in this reaction by the producers. The fact is that BOTH characters were slated to die and the backlash wasn't foreseen. ("Don't worry, kids, Optimus has just gone into a coma." haha)

I'm surprised that no one bothered to include criticism of Serpentor's ridiculous "Cobra-La -la-la-la-la!" battlecry that is subject to induce much sickeningly embarrassed eye-rolling... (No, really, please don't mention it.) :p

GALVATRON 09:10, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overview

The "Overview" section contains no citations and seems to be entirely original research. If no one can add citations to outside sources, I will remove this content. CRCulver 01:47, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Be more specific about your concerns: place "citation needed" tags alongside whichever statements you feel require clarification. However, none of this information is particularly novel among fandom: the "Overview" comments fall under the domain of "common knowledge" either by directly referencing the cited materials (eg., unedited Japanese disc, original script, or the G.I.Joe comics, where production information would occasionally surface in the letter column replies) or knowledge floating around from various staff interviews. [[1]],[[2]] ...You'll have to await further input from previous authors of the page should you need more exacting citations.

Meanwhile, description of fan reaction presented here is only neutrally reporting the spectrum of market response (as widely gathered from participating authors of this page or subject-related websites), not making any absolutist claims about the film itself, while other speculative observations are clearly identified as such and do not attempt to misrepresent themselves as anything more. Fan reaction is noteworthy in cases where it generates a pronounced feedback effect — ripples throughout the fan community coming to influence subsequent marketing decisions, as occurred here — just as one would be remiss to speak of Star Trek without mentioning the influence of "Trekkies", or Lucas' move to shelve Jar-Jar following hostile reaction to Phantom Menace. If you otherwise feel the current article is not factually neutral, suggest specific revisions.

172.148.60.94 08:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Javelin to the Heart discussion...Problem...

What I'm wondering is if the picture of Duke on the ground with blood on his jacket is a picture of after he is hit by the javelin, then the info on the article about him being struck in the heart is inaccurate due to the fact that the heart is one the left side of the chest, the blood is on the right side. Djanvk 11:04, 21 December 2006 (UTC)