Talk:Funk metal
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What in the hell is Sublime doing on this page, THEY ABSOULUTLY NOTHING TO DO WITH METAL
FYI Faith No More is more closely associated wit San Francisco. (maxcap 20:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC))
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[edit] Thats a lie
What? when this supossed funk metal was created? thats bullshit....Red Hot? theres nothin, thanks god, named funk metal, among people who listen real metal...whats next? reggae metal? country metal? tex-mex metal?
::Actually, country metal is a genre already - and there are plenty of dub artists who mix reggae with metal. You don't argue well. What would you call Infectious Grooves? A mixture of funk and metal seems like "funk-metal" to me.
::Rhcp was a Funk metal band...funk metal was more a scene that a strictly genre..fishbone too have nothing metal...but is a funk metal band.. but...take uplift mofo party plan, there was a lot of riff metal or almost metal...fight like brave for example.. i think that the funk metal term is created becouse "funk punk" term was already created for an other type of music like gang of four, pop group etc.."funk rock" was already give to something works of G.clinton,Sly Stone or Prince.. Funk Metal is different..more racous,more guitar oriented, almost ever slapping bass and with more rap elements... I can understand that for "metalheads" this is a lie... ---zagozagozago---- 16/6/06
[edit] Korn
Some of Korns songs was funk metal.
- I haven't listened to them extensively, but I'd agree with that. They definitely sometimes have the funky bass and heavy guitar combo. They were mostly influenced by funk metal and, to a lesser extent, other forms of alternative metal, but they were the first nu metal band. Nu metal is their genre and that's what they should be classified as on Wikipedia.
Please erase this entry Funk Metal doesnt exist....why almost any other genre must be glued to the metal term?
[edit] a bit of musical culture
Excuse me, but what is the difference between funk metal and rapcore?
First off, there's usually no rapping in funk metal. It should be noted that many do not consider the singing style of RATM or RHCP to be rapping, though this is clearly up for debate. Second funk rythms tennd to be more pronounced and in every song in funk metal. However, I think its mostly a matter of opinion what groups go in where as neither genre has ever been popular enough to be well defined, at least to my knowledge. marnues 17:59, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, marnues. I, too, think that Anthony Kiedis' singing style in most of RHCP's earlier songs is quite hardly hip hop-connected. However, I remember that Zack De La Rocha said to be influenced by Public Enemy's Chuck D, as I read on the article about his previous band.
I personally would agree that de la Rocha raps and Kiedis does not. I've heard several people make the claim about both though so I went with that. marnues 18:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
If Kiedis not rap,what he do in song like fight like a brave,green heaven,good times boys,sex rap and others??i think that he was far from hip hop culture but it is a way to sing that i can classified with "rap", Kiedis say that he start to sing when he listen peoples like grandmasterflash or kurtis blow
- I totally agree. Precsely, Kiedis is close to hip hop VOCALS, but far from hip hop CULTURE. He was a huge fan of Grandmaster Flash and Kurtis Blow, but he never dreamed to imitate their "poses". Egr, 3/7/2006
- "I've got tapes, I've got CDs, I've got my Public Enemy" ("The Power of Equality")- Kiedis rapped. End of story. ~Switch t 12:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] merging genres
Merging "funk metal" and thrash metal? Why not?
Because they're different.
[edit] Prince
I'm taking Prince off of this page, for reasons that I cited in much more detail on the Prince page. Essentially, Prince's music has both funk and bits of metal in it, but any of his songs with metal influences are almost uniformly more wide-ranging than being a simple mash-up of the two, and the metal influences even in his hardest-rocking music are very mild. I'll also just say that the term and style originated well after Purple Rain, which is probably his most rock and metal-influenced album as well as his most famous, therefore contradicting the "these artists help popularize the style..." part of this entry. Even on that album, there's little metal in the music aside from Prince's guitar solos. I agree with this guy. DavidJJJ 11:39, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reference
Q used the term funk-metal as the genre of the early Red Hot Chili Peppers on page 51 of their August, 2006 edition. --Switch 06:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Removed deletion tag
here's why maxcap 19:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Popular music website is often not a valid source on metal-related genres. As you can see, AMG also lists "Rap Metal" and "Punk Metal", two more non-existant genres. This should be deleted or used as a redirect for Funk. Same goes with Funk-rock, actually. Prolog 08:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- You can try AFD, but it was already once voted as keep. A merge with Funk rock is problably the best thing anyway Spearhead 13:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, a merger sounds fine to me. Prolog 14:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't get too worked up over the "metal" It's just a descriptor; the article doesn't claim it to be "true metal" or whatever. It's a fusion genre. I'm 50/50 on a merge, the funk-rock article is unsourced. At least this article has some sort of source. maxcap 12:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- As stated above, the article has already survived AFD. The term is in use by critics, as sourced by myself above - Q magazine is a very prominent source, and their use of the genre name guarantees notability in my opinion. Punk metal is a genre, known also as "crossover" and popular with punks and metalheads in the 80s, and with a wider audience in the early nineties. See Alternative metal, which I am sure you will also claim does not exist. Rap metal is arguable, but is used by media, fans and critics so widely it has become a term for bands that play vaguely metal-influenced music and rap vocals - ranging from Anthrax to Limp Bizkit. I also am 50-50 on a merge; funk metal is at least sourced somewhat, but I am sure I have heard the term funk-rock used. --Switch 04:11, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't get too worked up over the "metal" It's just a descriptor; the article doesn't claim it to be "true metal" or whatever. It's a fusion genre. I'm 50/50 on a merge, the funk-rock article is unsourced. At least this article has some sort of source. maxcap 12:43, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, a merger sounds fine to me. Prolog 14:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- You can try AFD, but it was already once voted as keep. A merge with Funk rock is problably the best thing anyway Spearhead 13:21, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Do not merge
Funk Metal IS a distinct genre, but possibly more perceptible to metal fans than funk fans. Basically, funk metal essentially contains a "screaming guitar" element absent from funk rock. A typical funk rock song is the Deep Purple (mk4) song GETTING TIGHTER, where there is a prevalent rock guitar, but not metal. On the other hand GIVE IT AWAY by the Red Hot Chili Peppers clearly has that highly amplified aggressive riffing associated with metal. It would be unwise to confuse the two and would mislead the musical historians of the future. Headshaker 21:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- There is nothing metal about RHCP at all. They are a simple rock band. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.143.33 (talk) 13:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Funk rock bands should be removed
If funk rock and funk metal should be two separate pages, I think it is important that this page contains only funk metal bands. Audioslave's page only says funk rock, so in the interest of consistency, I removed them. Bshbass 20:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
