Talk:Fuko

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[edit] Her hidden Tokyo Topless appearance

This model appeared at Tokyo Topless in 2005 (I'm estimating). She went under the name "Love" (らぶ ), appeared nude for a couple weeks, then the pictures were taken down and re-submitted as nude with her face cropped out. I meant to add this information to the article, but now find no reference to her at the site, and no source to back up this knowledge. She also appeared at a soapland, which was linked to from this site. This site also had pictures and a short video (all with face cropped out). I've got all the pictures and information saved, but can't find reference to it online... Dekkappai 18:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

After a little searching: Here and here she is at the soapland site (as "らぶ "), and here's a bit on the DVD. Here's a discussion on her. Dekkappai 19:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

I would imagine they were taken down because she would have actually been 17 at the time, right? Triggtay 19:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Right-- The model's rather extreme development led me to not see the obvious... No date of birth was given at the site. But if the birth year we have now is correct, she would have been underage at the time, so those pics were properly deleted. For the record, the original pics were put up at the site in March of '05, the cropped ones were put up in June. Dekkappai 21:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Real Hip Size

As amazing as Fuko is , it's clear from her vids that she has very small lower body with few curves and that her "24" waist AND hips "35" inches is just not a possibility. I have seen one fan guess 25 and 29 respectively but at such a diminutive height she could be even smaller. Her waist and her hips look about the same actually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTFv8oCWJJI—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Catherine Huebscher (talk • contribs) 19:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

Your concern over the correct information is appreciated, Catherine, however simply saying "Not possible," and giving guesses is no way to throw out sourced information. Every source I have seen, including the Japanese Wikipedia article, gives her hip measurement as 88 centimeters, which comes to 34.645669291 inches (approximately). Rounded off, that would be 35". So, unless you have a better source that says otherwise, I suggest we move it back. Dekkappai 19:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Look at the link and look at her body, that is no hourglass figure!She actually has a larger WAIST than hips in many of her photos We can't allow hyped promo to take the place of reality, my guessstimate is much more reliable but i will talk to one of her most ardent fans Catherine Huebscher

This sounds to me like original research. I suggest going with the sources rather than the guesstimates of fans, no matter how ardent. Dekkappai 19:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

What is the origianl source? Her fansite? Eyes don't lie! How about 28 inchwaist and 33 inch hips? That is closer to reality. Catherine Huebscher

Check out Wikipedia:Verifiability, Catherine. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." If you provide sources for the numbers you put in, I'll be happy to go along with them. As it is though, it looks like you just made up those numbers, while the old ones, whether you agree with them or not, have some verifiability. Dekkappai 19:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I have but what about reality? You and I both know those waist and hip measurments are total fiction. Girls will read this and be totally mislead. Its important that these amazing physical specimens not be hyped with false data by fans which is what the sources were. At under 5 feet tall and so square below the bust, I'm just not seeing an hourglass figure and 24 inch waist. In fact she looks squared off and muffin topped. The attempts by the media to give tiny waist measurments to everyone who comes along when there are very few naturally hourglassy women left in the media is not fair to the researcher or women like me who really have that figure. Catherine Huebscher

And there is no precedent for using original research or "measurements from pictures" to alter the stats here. We can only go based on what other people have reported in reliable, independent sources. -- nae'blis 00:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It occurs to me that, as is often the case with these models, some camera-angle "enhancement" may be going on here too, increasing the apparent bust-size while making the lower regions appear smaller. But again, this is pure guess-work and no substitution for the verifiable stats which we have to give, right or wrong. Dekkappai 00:52, 10 February 2007 (UTC)