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"the typical French person drank local wine and, although proud of France's reputation for making some of the world's outstanding wines, knew relatively little about them"

Why is this phrase in wikipedia ? It's like if i was writing "Typical American is obese, cannot place Europe on a map and eats Mac Donald every day"

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Contents 1 I'm thinking about to start vandalising American pages... 2 Largest Production? 3 Rallying the Troops 4 POV 5 Relevant French wine article up for deletion

[edit] I'm thinking about to start vandalising American pages...

I'm growing pretty tired of the obvious vandalism that permeates all the France-related articles. If you tiresome, whining Americans don't have something better to do than to vandalise wikipedian pages please just sod off! I removed the links, because both of them was very critical towards the French wine industry and is an ill disguised POV...

BTW- Our wine industry in Canada has been doing great in recent competitions. See the St. Catharines Wine Tasting of 2005 and the Ottawa Wine Tasting of 2005.Ted Howell 15:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Ottawa Wine Tasting of 2005 article has been deleted Steve.Moulding 20:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

BTW- tasters at The St. Catharines Wine Tasting of 2005 were all Canadian and included writers for Canadian wine magazines, professors and students at the local University, and 8 members of the Ontario wine industry(!). Nothing against Canadian wine, but this trumpeting of the results of this (minor) tasting needs to be kept in perspective. Steve.Moulding 20:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Largest Production?

I have always heard that Italy produced the most wine in the world, often in the context of it being underappreciated outside Italy! See here for example, although those figures are from 1998 and show Italy just slightly ahead and Italian production decining faster than French. I've heard mentioned that France produces the most 'quality' wine in the world, whatever that means, presumably wine over a certain base price threshold. Maybe the most wine in bottles rather than Tetrapak :-) -- Blorg 19:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rallying the Troops

Having browsed around the French Wine entries in Wikipedia, I have to say that in general, the representation of French wine here is in a shambles. Far from wishing only to complain, I plan on adding what I can. There's certainly a lot to be done. Is anyone else interested in rallying a concerted effort to make the entries on French Wine full and informative? --BridgeBurner 19:15, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV

It is my view that much of French wine is infected with a negative POV. There is much talk of the problems facing French wine here and elsewhere which are very real and germane. However, not only are the problems listed in a much larger volume compared to any other type of information, but they are often accompanies with a promotion of some other type of wine. There are also written in an extremely sweeping assumptive language as if the editor knows what a large population wants or needs. The more I delve into this, the more I assume a vested interest by the editor(s) involved. It seems that there are few editors present in Wikipedia that care enough about French wine to promote an unbiased viewpoint, so it seems these edits have been allowed to infiltrate almost every level. I appeal to the editor(s) in question to define their motivation to further a pretty bald bias. --BridgeBurner 18:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

• I agree. It is infected and attempts to promote some wines. This occurs in several articles. Are grape varieties that important for the consumer? In here the trend is the wine region followed by brand. And most wines mix different grape varieties. --Pedro 14:18, 13 March 2006 (UTC

Dear BridgeBurner- Please see the message I left on your talk page several days ago. In the meantime, I'm workiing on a general wine competitions page. Best regards.David Justin

I wonder about our current statistic that American importation of wine from France dropped 50% in 2003. I had previously read that this "boycott" was largely a fabrication of anti-French individuals like Bill O'Reilly and that there was little or no discernable impact on the economy.64.12.116.6 10:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Negative POV, indeed: "...it's becoming increasingly difficult for French producers to compete internationally, and in traditional French fashion, they are beginning to surrender." Perhaps the article would be better off without this cheap crack at the French. --Benwk 13:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed the biased vandalism.Cloudy Bay 18:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relevant French wine article up for deletion

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Problems in the French Wine Industry has been put up for deletion. A potential outcome could be a request to merge the relevant information into this article so any input (or improvements) that could be given from the editors of this article would be appreciated. Agne 20:35, 17 January 2007 (UTC)