Talk:Free Teens

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[edit] Irrelevant information

The paragraph about how virginity pledges are not effective is more pertinent to the article on the pledges themselves rather than this article. I've removed it and placed it here.

"The effects of abstinence-based programms is under dispute. Scientific studies show that young adults who make an external commitment or pledge to maintain their virginity until marriage have similar rates of STDs as those who have not made an external commitment. [1] [2] Other studies show that the effects of virginity pledges typically include the delay of vaginal sexual intercourse by 12 to 18 months, but with decreased likelihood of condom use at the first encounter. [3] A 2005 Harvard study of virginity pledges showed that the pledges have little staying power among those who take them, with half the adolescents who signed the public promises giving up on their pledges within a year.[4]"

[edit] Unification church

This appears to be the abstinence education arm of the Unification Church. I think its legit, I'm removing the proposed deletion. jbolden1517Talk 19:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm assuming that Panzer's motive is religious, based on a talk I heard him give once, a long time ago. Moreover, it is well known that his church heavily promotes the concepts of abstinence before marriage and fidelity thereafter. --Uncle Ed 20:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

In that light, I'm wondering about this comment, which seems to be critical:

Members of the group's board of directors, including its director and chief financial officer, ommitted mentioning their positions with Moon's Unification Church in their application for a $475,280 grant from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services in July 2002.

Is this considered unusual? I mean, must members of other churches mention their "positions" when seeking grants like this?

I'd like to see this recast as an opposing view, like:

  • Church opponent Zeral Lyres castigated group's board for concealing its cult connections, in a statement Thursday. [source]
  • Ledem Duit, spokesman for SIECUS, said that the government should never have supplied funds to a group with such a blatantly religious motive. [source]

Anyone want to google this? --Uncle Ed 20:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)