Talk:Free-Will

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[edit] Single article > 3+ articles

Since there is little merit in scattering information related to essentially one company over three or more individual pages (especially with relatively little information available in general), I have merged the sub-division related articles with this one. In the future, the Sub-divisions section can be easily expanded with sub-sections in order to give an overview over the operations of the individual brands. There was some information in the PS Company article (regarding management staff and history), which is presently not covered by this one. It should be re-implemented with respective citations. - Cyrus XIII 13:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Firewall Div.

I suggest reconsidering the wording that Dir en grey is the only band under Firewall. Though it used to be true that Firewall Div. exclusively delt with Dir en grey, that is no longer true. For several years they've been releasing things from Baroque and even released the American artist John 5's Virtigo cd in Japan under Firewall. This information is rather hard to find now, but I remember there being a huge uproar over other people being released under it when it happened. I did find confirmation of Barouqe under the new releases at their site: http://www.pigmy.jp/ If I remember correctly, while Baroque was formerly of S'Cube div, they switched to Firewall Div. for their final few releases as a band. These non Dir en grey releases are also released with Sony, just like the Dir en grey cds/dvds. Saka 14:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I have changed the article accordingly. Information regarding the John 5 release (interesting album, by the way) will probably turn up sooner or later. - Cyrus XIII 14:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I did find this link on John 5, which clearly lists it as being under Firewall Div., though I'm not sure the point is even relevant to the article, and further confirmation for baroque this link where most of the cds and dvds available are from Firewall, though some are from S'Cube. Saka 04:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extasy East vs Free Will west

• It is pretty normal for non-english wikipedia articles to be created from translations of English into another language. The information in the first paragraph is based on the Japanese article: 80年代後半から90年代にかけて多くの人気を博したヴィジュアル系ロックバンドが所属していた事により、昔は「東のエクスタシー、西のフリーウィル」とも呼ばれていた。ちなみにエクスタシーとはYOSHIKIの主催するEXTASY RECORDSの事。Denaar 08:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, and that's a big problem. This way information is unquestioningly handed back and forth the different wikis, even if the original articles were completely unsourced. - Cyrus XIII 15:14, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

• Hmm, there are 58 mentions of the phrase 東のエクスタシー、西のフリーウィル on a google search - mostly blogs. I couldn't find a source I regonize as reliable; but at the same time, it seems like a good indication the phrase is or was in use (since the JP wiki states it was used 80 - 90, before the www was around, its a decent number of hits.) Unforunately most of the reliable sites I know of focus on current music. Translating articles from the original language the subject matter is from into another language isn't designed to give a complete article, but just to give the article a start. Denaar 05:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)