Talk:Frederick North, Lord North

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Sir Frederick North had one full-sister and several half-sibs. Do you have any information on what happened to his full-sister? She was disowned by the family for some reason. If you can't help, do you know who might?

Gayden Warmald thewarmalds@shaw.ca

My family tree, which led me to this reference lists Fredrick Lord North as having a daughter Margaret (I think). Given the research I have done to date and the sad state of my source material (family heirloom), it is possible that this person was not in fact his daughter but his disowned sister. She is listed as being married to some fellow called "O'Neill". He is not given a first name and given that his is an Irish name, marriage to the sister of an English Peer of this period it is entirely possible that this is the "tradesman".

I will be making further investigations but hope this is of help.

jmcgrath@connect.ie

This page should not be at "2nd Earl of Guilford", I don't think...we shouldn't fetishize highest titles. He was known for his entire career by the courtesy title. For people like Chatham or Beaconsfield who were known for most of their career by one name, and then got ennobled, it's one thing to put them under their peerage title (and see my rather bitter comments over at Chatham's page, which I just removed.) But it's quite another to do it for someone like North (the same might be said for, say, Shelburne/Lansdowne...) john 09:52, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)

The discussion on the matter, for those interested, as well as a discussion of general ideas regarding the naming of articles on peers, is continuing at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Peerage. -- The Earl of Emsworth

Shouldn't the title of this page be either, Lord North or Frederick North? And then one or the other redirects to the actual article?

No, the current format is standard format for courtesy peers. john k 05:08, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)