Talk:Fredegar Bolger

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how can the DOB of this charachter be accurate? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jakeponsillo (talk • contribs) .

Tolkien compiled family trees for various hobbit families, including the Bolger's, but was unable to include all of them in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings due to space constraints. However, the Bolger family tree (amongst others) can be found in The Peoples of Middle-earth... listing Fredegar as having been born in S.R. 1377... which would correspond with T.A. 2977 rather than the 2980 shown in the article. Offhand I don't know how the latter figure was devised. --CBDunkerson 21:50, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fredegar Bolger error

His role survives as a minor anomaly in the book — before the Hobbits go into the Old Forest, they have five ponies prepared — but only take four. Bolger was originally supposed to go with them.

This seems incorrect to me. They take 6 ponies, one for supplies, one for each hobbit. They all rode to the gate in the hedge, where Fredegar tries one last time to try to talk them out of going through the gate before turning back to play his role in keeping up appearances.

Would people please give me guidance about how to edit. I would change the below test as below. Trivia

In earlier drafts of The Lord of the Rings Fatty Bolger played a much larger role, but this was later abandoned. His role survives as a minor anomaly in the book — before the Hobbits go into the Old Forest, they have five ponies prepared — but only take four. Bolger was originally supposed to go with them.

...abandoned. Interestingly enough though, he becomes one of the first and last heros of the book. He leaves the other four hobbits at the gate to the old forest and goes back to Crickhollow to face the wrath of the black riders, possibly delaying them by several days by his deception. Then he is one of the last to be rescued from prison after the death of Saruman in the very last chapter of the book.

[edit] Tom Bombadil

There's a mystery here how Tom specifically asks the hobbits about Bolger. He says some very positive things about him. Clearly the two have interacted in the past. Can anyone shed light on it, and even if not it's a passage in Fellowship and deserves mention here. --FNV 04:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

The passage you're referring to is about Farmer Maggot, not Fredegar Bolger Oldbus 22:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)