User talk:FrancescoMazzucotelli
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[edit] Sidon
I like the compromise. Happy editing. :) —Khoikhoi 22:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Istrian exodus
Thanks for adding tons of useful information to this page. Hopefully it can now be maintained as NPOV without vandalism occuring. --Zivan56 08:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] esodo
Stai facendo un grave errore su istrian exodus: ti comporti come quel vandalo di Zivan56! Io e PIO stiamo riportando la traduzione dalla versione italiana: guarda in cronologia dell'articolo italiano e renditi conto di quanto abbia collaborato Pio alias PIO! Non disturbare lo sviluppo del testo di utenti che hanno curato l'edizione italiana! Quel vandalo di Zivan se vuole collaborare perchè non traduce il testo nella sua lingua anzichè vandalizzare il nostro sviluppo dell'articolo? Zivan è solo ignorante e provocatore!--Jxy 08:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
English translation:
You're making a big mistake on Istrian exodus: you're behaving like that vandal Zivan56! PIO and I are reporting the translation of the Italian version: read in the "History" section of the Italian article and realize how much Pio alias PIO has contributed! Don't disturb the development of the text [made] by users who edited the Italian version! That vandal Zivan56... If he wants to contribute, why doesn't he translate the text in his own language instead of vandalizing our development of the article? Zivan is only an ignorant and a flamer!
- My answer:
- I am not acting "like a vandal" and I am not "disturbing" any "development" of the discourse. The entry is not "yours": it is open to all contributions and edits in a spirit of mutual respect and constructive criticism. Please respect other users, including those who have different ideas. It is strange that you profess to be "libertarian and anti-totalitarian" and then behave in a slightly different manner.
- I read the entry on the Italian-language version of Wikipedia and the whole discussion on the talk page, which included an exchange of different points of view and interpretations. You have any right to have your own opinion on the issue, but Wikipedia is just not the right place to express POVs. Please stick to the most neutral, fact-based version. It will enhance your credibility, by the way, much more than a version which seems hard-liner or stinks of propaganda.
- P.S.: I write in English, because this is the English-language version of Wikipedia and English-speaking users have the right to know what we are talking about.
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- Thanks for translating his comments. Hopefully a mod will take the proper measures to teach this person how to behave on Wikipedia. --Zivan56 20:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalismo
Ciao, mi esprimo in lingua italiana perchè è la lingua che meglio conosco e mi rivolgo a te che sei di madrelingua italiana. In history di istrian exodus puoi leggere my rollback after vandalism e quell'utente sloveno così agendo mi rivolge attacchi personali. Il mio contributo come puoi leggere è semplice e si attiene a dati storici acquisiti! Quel vandalo dev'essere bloccato quindi ho avvisato un amministratore! Apprezzo il tuo contibuto. Ciao,--PIO 18:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
English translation:
Hi, I express myself in Italian because it is the language that I best master and I am talking to you who are a native Italian speaker. In 'history' of istrian exodus you can read 'my rollback after vandalism' and that Slovenian user, acting that way, is addressing personal attacks to me. As you can read, my contribution is simple and follows unquestionable historical data! That vandal must be stopped, so I alerted an administrator! I appreciate your contribution. So long,
[edit] Sidon again
I reverted because I realized that it's common practice on Wikipedia to have historical names at the top of the page. This is the same reason why we have the Greek names at the Istanbul and Izmir articles. Also, you deleted the section about Hezbollah without any explanation...could you please provide one? Khoikhoi 18:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
- The Greek name used to be at the Jerusalem article, actually, and if you feel like Damascus should have it as well, by all means add it. You will note that following the same policy, the Turkish names of Thessaloniki (Selânik), Thrace (Trakya), etc. are on the pages of Greek cities. It is useful for readers of Wikipedia to see these historical names at the top, as it's more convenient there. You will find similar policies in other areas which have been governed or populated by many different language groups over time. For example:
- As for the section about Hezbollah, I guess it's fine to delete it. The sources don't appear to be reliable anyways. Ciao, Khoikhoi 22:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I don't appreciate it
Assume good faith and stop making insinuations on the reasons of my reverts beyond those given in the summary. Various edits have been made the last few days with significant changes without discussions, contrary to what is asked on the tag found in the talkpage. That I reverted back starting with your edit does not mean that I disagree with you, but that I have randomly selected starting with you, to request discussing the changes. This will be news as the discussions going on in the talkpage are irrelevant and have nothing to do with the content of the article. So you could make a good use of the talk page. I also believe that that that sentence you have modified was POV and should be reworked, but since this is a controversial article and that it will possibly spark a conroversy and edit warrings, your justifications and discussions are more than welcome. Fad (ix) 02:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
- My answer:
- It is actually discomforting that a plea for fairness, balance and self-restraint addressed to all contributors is interpreted as a personal attack which deserves an apology. It is also discomforting that, in spite of the alleged "be bold - anyone can edit" principle that supposedly animates Wikipedia, a user has to explain on the talk page the reasons for removing a sentence that is not only POV, but also factually inaccurate (and expressed in a childish manner, by the way) and a quotation that is quite biased, to say the least.
- However, I do understand your reasons. Since Wikipedia is populated by a significant share of users who apparently don't have anything better to do in their lives than staging endless (and quite useless) edit wars, and since my intention is to offer a positive contribution, I will follow your advice and post my proposals on the talkpage as soon as possible.
- Your comments and suggestions will be more than welcome.
- Thank you, and you are right, be bold is what is asked, but some articles request for their own sake some self-restraint. The requested appology asked may sound exagerated, and I admit having been too extrem, but your harshness was unwarranted. Also I will welcome your critic of the overal article and suggestions. Regards Fad (ix) 21:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
