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Fray (military): combat area, line of fire. "The officers lead their troops into the fray." Possible origin: The battle order was torn up or frayed under enemy fire.

This is Wikipedia, not Wiktionary. —Paul A 08:07, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I pulled his section out, as a dicdef, and not a helpful disambig. -- Netoholic @ 03:55, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

In textiles, fraying refers to the way wovens begin to come apart at the edge: the weave becomes undone and threads pull out easily. See also * pinking shears

Contents 1 My Theory 2 The Apocalypse 3 Expansion? 4 Fyral?

[edit] My Theory

Here's what I think happened to all those slayers that got activated got dwindled down to one slayer.

Remember that Joss Whedon original wanted the line to run through Buffy and Faith. When Buffy died, Dawn existed as her, possibly the other slayer. But, since Dawn hasn't seen action, the line only went through Faith. So as many slayers were chosen and called, the line only went through Faith. and over the years, the numbers of slayers dwindled. So at one era, there were many slayers until the 26th century where only one existed.

And the scythe may have been in one of the New York Slayers' possession.

-Tommy--AmokMyth 03:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Several things are wrong with your theory: first, Dawn was not a Potential. This was actually addressed in one of the season seven episodes. And people would have noticed if she had become a Slayer, because she would have gained superhuman abilities. So the Dawn=Slayer business? Does not fit, so I'm not sure where you're going with it. It was also made pretty clear that it's Buffy's mystical resurrection that caused the Slayer line to screw up, not her second death (I always wondered if another Slayer was called at her death, but canon evidence seems to suggest that nothing happened, hence, the line WOULD go only through Faith, though why the previous death/resurrection would be any less disruptive than the mystical one, I have no idea). And there's a VERY simple reason for why "the numbers of Slayers dwindled" (btw, please caps Slayer; it's not just a word, it's a title, and it's capitilized in canon!): Slayers do not pass on their powers to offpsring. Robin Wood is proof of this. Heck, the Potentials are proof of this, since even though they show some special signs of being a Potential Slayer (dreams, a bit of instinct when it comes to fighting), they can't become full-fledged Slayers without some mystical trigger, either the death of the Slayer in line immediately in front of them or a spell such as the one Willow used in "Chosen".

In any case, so yes, simple explanation for there being only one Slayer: all the previous Potentials who had had their Slayer powers awakened during Buffy's time simply died, as you'd expect them to eventually do (some probably even of natural causes, since estimates range in the hundreds or more for the number of Potentials). Actual full-fledged Slayer abilties clearly have to be awakened through mystical means, anyway - again, either the previous Slayer dies or there's a spell that does it - so even if there were a "Potential Slayer" gene, it has a very good chance of doing pretty much nothing unless it has the mystical activation, which since there were no demons left in this world, there would not have been a need for.

Side note - this ain't Star Trek. Fray does NOT take place in the "26th" century. It takes place in either the 24th or 23rd century, since it's been two centuries since the 21st century demonic banishment. Please double-check your numbers or learn to count. I just lent out my copy, so I can't check if they listed which century it was, but it was made pretty damn clear that it was about two centuries since the 21st century. Depending on how exact it was and what point of the 21st century they speak of, it could be the dawn of the 24th or it could be the 23rd. Somebody with a copy still on them should double-check.

I do, however, like your theory regarding the scythe. Simple, but actually makes sense. Or perhaps the demons Urkonn gets his orders from stole it or were originally guarding it. 63.21.81.221 09:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

That's a nice theory, but in the Buffy finale, as the Potentials were being awakened, Buffy clearly stated, "From now on, every girl in the world who might be a Slayer will be a Slayer," which tends to make me think that from that point on, all Potentials would become Slayers...so there would have to be another reason for there only being one Slayer. Either that, or Buffy was just wrong...*gasp*

Icthyos 20:16, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

User:63.21.81.221 is right, the simplest explanation is that no Potential Slayers were born for a long time because there was no need for them. However, it is ironic that he or she wrote that bit about this not being Star Trek, since Star Trek actually takes place in the 23rd and 24th centuries, not the 26th. -- Noneofyourbusiness 00:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Apocalypse

This article addresses that the apocalyptic battle described in Fray, and how it was never shown on Buffy or Angel. However, its evidence that the battle in Not Fade Away did not herald the beginning of this apocalypse is that comics set afterwards do not show evidence of a cataclysm. However, those comics aren't canon. I'm editing that section to remove the references to the comics. Alpha5099 06:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion?

Would anyone consider making articles for Melaka Fray and Harth Fray, would there be enough information? Zythe 14:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I think they both do not justify articles of their own and should be covered within this article. See WP:FICT. --Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 15:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for answering :) Zythe 15:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fyral?

Okay, how do we know that Fray's mentor was a Fyral demon? Was it ever actually mentioned? From what we've seen on Buffy, Fyarels are dim-witted hired muscle to other demons, including vampires. Urkonn hated vampires. Also he seemed to be pretty smart, coming up with createve ways to get the job done. Sure Urkonn looked similar to a Fyarrl demon, but the personality just doesnt match.

I aggree, and actually the only thing Urkonn really has in common with a Fyral are the curving horns. Urkonn had cloven feet and goat-like legs and knees. The only Fyral we've ever seen possessed neither of these qualities. Besides that, it was never mentioned specifically and should be stricken simply because we don't know if it's true. (for some reason my account won't work, but my name is StarlightFalling)