Talk:Frankenstein in popular culture

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Thanks, Jayunderscorezero, for organizing the unclassified entries and checking for duplicates. -- Stbalbach 20:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome! I see this sort of thing a lot, though usually not helpfully separated and classified as it was here.Jayunderscorezero 10:09, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein

The above title for this film has just as much authority (plus makes more sense!) as the pedantic 'Bud Abbott Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein', which the IMDb and a previous editor here seem to be in favor of. The latter version of the title is not 'official', nor is the IMBd an official authority for film titles. Nor is the IMBd infallible...Colin4C 19:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anon's removals and Stbalbach's reversion thereof

I think the anon did the right thing. Look at the language that was removed:

  • one of the most strikingly terrifying movies in cinema -- says who?
  • gloriously perverse -- says who? What does that mean, anyway?
  • star-studded psychological masterpiece -- at the very best, overly flowerly; who says "masterpiece"?
  • It is fitting, for a character like Frankenstein, that the series should consist of a set of disparate elements connected together and viewed as one entity --says who?
  • over-done makeup -- says who?
  • somewhat heretically -- says who?
  • vastly superior --says who?
  • (It's a mystery in all these type films how controlling a mindless thug can lead to world conquest.) -- says who?
  • Two reviews of upcoming or current films, uncredited and uncited
  • Unaired pilot -- cite?
  • An episode of Star Trek The Next Generation # 403 Brothers has evil twin Lore kill his father/Creator Dr Sung -- which has what to do with Frankenstein, other than patricide (hardly unique to the Frankenstein mythos)

I suggest that the anon did the right thing removing pretty much all of that. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The problem is when you remove the above, you end up with nothing - no context, no placement in history, no reasoning, no significance - no reason for the information to be in the article - we are writing actual prose here, saying why things are notable, not making a list of dry facts. I'm not saying the language can't be improved, but removing it wholesale is removing content as well. Use {fact} tags, change words etc.. but keep the rationales and context - we are reporting on works of art, there are some things that are just plain obvious and not controversial. -- Stbalbach 17:03, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
"Gloriously perverse" is plain obvious? "heretically"? "psychological masterpiece"? The "it is fitting" opinion? "Vastly superior"? Maybe. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 20:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I left in how the 1931 Frankenstien was the most famous, and that Bride of Frankenstein was considered the best sequel in any genre. I only removed some flowery language, some stupid comments, and POV comments. Saying a movie is great, or saying it is bad, is POV, no matter what movie. I also removed the unaired pilot since it was mentioned earlier, and in greater detail, in the Hammer section. -69.110.235.31 18:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Don Glut

I've started gathering material regarding Don Glut, his Frankenstein books and other items on the main Frankenstein's monster talk page. Might it be better placed here? Icarus 23 17:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

(Sigh) more references to investigate... [1] Icarus 23 18:37, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] short subject

Today on TCM (Turner Classic Movies) there was a 3-D short subject which featured the Frankenstein Monster, and called it "Frankenstein" - did anyone see that, could they add this to the list? Itzik18 06:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation?

This is a useful article, but shouldn't there also be simple disambiguation page called Frankenstein (disambiguation) that lists the novel, several movies called Frankenstein and the Edgar Winter song, among other items?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 20:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

It could be done, but I'm not sure it wouldn't be redundant. The purpose of dab pages is for navigation purposes, if a work could have a link then it could be included. It basically would just repeat what's in this page, and the two probably would get out of sync and be confusing. -- Stbalbach 13:55, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] comics.

we need to add the creatures appearances in the comic called fables. as he was a major protagonist in the story arc. wolfman vs frankenstein or something. like that. but my memory is etchy. i seem to remember that he survives just as a head.

If you start it out then someone else can come along and fill in any details you are hazy on. (Emperor 23:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC))
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