Talk:Francisco Fernández de la Cueva, 8th Duke of Alburquerque

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Mets501 (talk) 22:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

  • Support Article is missing the duke's numerial order, request to move. Gryffindor 07:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I see no reason for this change. We could keep adding details to article titles, but to what purpose? The information should be given in the article, of course, but the article title should be relatively short and should correspond to the way the individual would be thought of, remembered and searched for. Rbraunwa 13:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes but peerage has their number included if there were multiple ones. See Fernando Álvarez de Toledo, 3rd Duke of Alba or Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, 18th Duchess of Alba or George Gordon, 5th Duke of Gordon for reference sake. Gryffindor 15:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Some article titles include the numbers, but many, perhaps most, don't. I would argue that they should be removed from the ones that do rather than added to the ones that don't. (But I have a high degree of tolerance for variation, and I'm not seriously arguing that position.) My feeling is that anything that can be left out of the article title should be left out. Titles should be succinct, and easy to remember and type. Their only purpose is to uniquely specify someone or something. Sometimes not even the full name of the person is given in the article title, as here: Manuel Antonio Flores. The place for details is in the body of the article, not in its title. The title here is already long, and making it longer is not going to make it easier to find or type or remember.
Rbraunwa 02:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I strongly believe the the ordinals are important enough to warrant inclusion in article titles. It is easy enough to do and it is accurate. Charles 00:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Support If the Duke was indeed the 8th holder of the ducal title. Charles 00:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.