Talk:Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt

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Is the last sentence, "Alexander Denk, a former bodyguard for Anna Nicole Smith, has reportedly told the tabloid television program "Extra" that he had an affair with his former employer, and that it's possible he could be Dannielynn's father.[16]" relevant? Why list him, but not other potential fathers? I say delete this. Tebucky 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Contents 1 Weasel Wording 2 Anna Nicole Smith's Baby Daddy? 3 "Prince" 4 Surname 5 age?

[edit] Weasel Wording

The last paragraph exemplifies this. "He appears to be treating her........,etc. Where is the source for this opinion? T.E. Goodwin 00:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks to our German colleague Tilman for removing the weasel wording. T.E. Goodwin 05:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Anna Nicole Smith's Baby Daddy?

There's an AP report being broadcast on live TV that he claims it's possible he's the father of the late Anna Nicole Smith's infant daughter. If there are good online news sources in the next little while, they may be worth citing in this article. JFHJr (㊟) 18:39, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

The current text regarding Anna Nicole Smith is copied verbatim from the AP article; must be revised.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070210/ap_on_re_us/anna_nicole_smith_prince;_ylt=AkOQFKyna2ebvjOQQkffpEcDW7oF Eastend 14:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Prince"

The official site for the House of Ascania, the dynasty which ruled Anhalt, states:

"Das Adoptionsrecht in Deutschland ermöglicht Erwachsenenadoptionen praktisch ohne Bedingungen. Deshalb gibt es unzählige Namensträger von Anhalt die nicht vom Hauses Anhalt-Askanien abstammen.

Nur die hier aufgeführten Namensträger stammen tatsächlich vom Hause Anhalt-Askanien ab."[1]

Basically meaning:

"The adoption laws in Germany make the adoptions of adults possible, practically without conditions. Therefore, there are innumerable carriers of the names of the House of Anhalt-Ascania from which they do not descend. Only the bears of the name specified here actually descend from the House of Ascania-Ascania."

Descent is the only way to belong to a German royal house, specifically male-line descent. Frédéric does not qualify under either category, nor is he listed as a member of the family. Charles 19:55, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone know how much money he paid for the title and where his personal wealth came from? 69.204.163.4 22:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

He did not pay for a title, he exchanged money to be adopted and only gained a surname which looks like a title. As for where his personal wealth may have come from, I do not know. Charles 22:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surname

That his official full surname is "Prinz von Anhalt" does not mean that this is the surname used, any more than we would have to call Otto Graf Lambsdorff "Graf Lambsdorff" on all occurrences. I'd suggest we call him "Anhalt". john k 23:54, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think an issue such as this leads to confusion as to the validity of the "title". Lambsdorff, as far as I am aware, would legitimately be a count so the treatment there is different. Charles 00:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Who are we to say whether someone is "legitimately" a count? This guy's surname is "Prinz von Anhalt." Lambsdorff's surname is "Graf Lambsdorff." It's not our job to determine that one is a real count, and the other a fake prince, at least so far as how we name them. john k 05:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

We aren't, because it has already been established for us. Come on, John, don't play that game. You know exactly that on one hand, Lambsdorff is the member of a former noble family whereas Prinz von Anhalt is not an agnate of any princely, ducal or noble family. Charles 06:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why that should determine what name we call someone by. I am strongly of the opinion that we should call people what they want to be called. john k 09:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

We are using his legal surname. He wants to be called "Prince". Should we call him that? Charles 17:46, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] age?

how old was he that he could be adopted in 1980 but marry zsa zsa gabor? 67.172.61.222 01:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Frédéric is in his 70s. Individuals can be adopted as adults. There are many reasons why this may be done (inheritance, etc). Even in the United States it is done. Charles 03:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)