Talk:Fortress (chess)

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We may want to add Smirin-Hiarcs 8, where Smirin's 48.Bb4! offered Black the choice of an opposite-colored bishop ending or a bishop v. knight ending where Smirin had an impenetrable fortress. Krakatoa 01:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I think so too. I think it is a better, or at least more typical example from an actual game than the one in there currently from an actual game. Bubba73 (talk), 02:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Should defense perimeter be merged into this article?

I have tagged defense perimeter for a possible merge into this article. A Google search -- chess "defense perimeter" -- seems to bring up relevant hits only from (a) the Wikipedia article itself and (b) references to Soltis' book "The Art of Defense in Chess." [1] The term seems to be Soltis' coinage, one not used by other chess writers. Although Soltis' book was published over 20 years ago -- Amazon shows that the paperback was published Sept. '86 [2] and I know the hardcover came out before that -- other writers outside of Wikipedia don't seem to have followed Soltis' lead. I am a chess master, pretty well-read, and was unfamiliar with the term before I saw it in Wikipedia (even though I read the hardcover of Soltis' book cover-to-cover around 25 years ago). "Defense perimeter" is at a minimum very similar to "fortress," and is a short article -- it was one paragraph, with one reference, before I decided that a problem I'd put into fortress (chess) should be moved into defense perimeter if the definition in the latter article was correct. In short, I suggest merging "defense perimeter" into "fortress chess," with a redirect at the former and a mention of Soltis' terminology in the latter. Thoughts? Krakatoa 20:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you. Defensive perimeter is a special case of a fortress, so I favor making defensive perimeter a section under Fortress. Bubba73 (talk), 00:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I also agree. I haven't seen the term "defense perimeter" either. Seems like nobody else followed Soltis' lead. youngvalter 15:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Everyone who's responded has agreed on a merge, and no one has spoken against it, so I've gone ahead and merged the d.p. article into the fortress article. I hope no one has a problem with that. Krakatoa 04:06, 19 October 2006 (UTC)