Talk:Formations of the United States Army

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Contents 1 Airborne Divisions 2 Infantry Division Numbering 3 INFANTRY CORPS 4 Naming

[edit] Airborne Divisions

Some of the airborne divisions (most especially the 80th, 84th, and 100th) were created/activated after World War II in 1946 and only lasted until 1952. These divisions basically were an extension of the originating Infantry Divisions (example: 80th Infantry Division, after deactivation as an Infantry Division, became an Airborne Division until it's final deactivation in 1952). This brings up the question of whether or not the Airborne portion of their history should be included in the same article as the Infantry portion, or if it should be put into a separate article since--technically--the divisions were separate?

Further, we have the 11th Airborne Division that, between the years of 1963-1965, was reactivated to do helicopter "Air Assault" operations (similiar to what the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) did later and does now). Interestingly enough, though, when reactivated for these test operations, the division was not classified as Airborne but quite literally as Air Assault, thus making it from `63-`65 the 11th Air Assault Division. I realize some people call the 101st the 101st Air Assault Division, but this is incorrect, whereas it was correct to call the 11th the 11th Air Assault Division. Interesting, no? This brings up the question of whether a new entry should be made under the name '11th Air Assault Division' for the brief period the 11th was testing Air Assault theory.

Perhaps a compromise can be reached with redirect pages to a single article?--SOCL 02:05, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

As noted above, the 11th was a TEST division--that was part of its title. It's mission was not to conduct combat air assaults but to test. A nit-pick--but that's why the 11th was chosen to be the unit to test airmobility (as another matter of curiousity, the battalions testing the theory were all battalions traditionally part of the 2nd Infantry Division. The 11th passed into history and its battalions were re-designated battalions of the 1st Cavalry Division)--Buckboard 06:55, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infantry Division Numbering

The numbering system for airborne divisions is part of the infantry branch, not it's own seperate branch—the same goes for the mountain division. So the 11th Infantry Division is actually the 11th Airborne, and not a seperate division. The 80th Airborne Division is simply a redesignation of the 80th ID from 1946-1952. For those reasons, the airborne divisions and mountain division should be reintegrated into the infantry division list.--SOCL 21:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] INFANTRY CORPS

Sorry, but whereas there were such things as Airborne Corps and Armored Corps in the US Army, there has never been anything designated as an Infantry Corps outside of the German Army. What you call Infantry Corps are actually known as Army Corps.SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 20:45, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming

Is it neccessary to have the "U.S." in the name of the units, especially when this page/article is already designated "United States Army"? It's not like somebody will be coming to this page looking for units of the German Wehrmacht or anything. It seems a bit redundant to include that as part of the unit's name, especially when it's not. It's not the "U.S. 2nd Infantry Division", but just the plain old "2nd Infantry Division", even if it is sometimes referred to that way in literature to distinguish it from similarly named units in multi-country 'engagements'. wbfergus 15:51, 20 January 2007 (UTC)