Talk:Ford Escape Hybrid
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I've un-merged this article from Ford Escape. The articles were merged only three days after the merger was first proposed, and with no discussion. I've left the merger boilerplate up top so this discussion can actually happen. raekwon 23:37, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
- I do not think they should be merged at this point. The technology differences are great, and the audience for each article is quite different. My vote is leave them separate. --SFoskett 14:46, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Absolutely, I agree. They appeal to totally different groups. They have completely different drivetrains. The regular Escape has just one engine, one battery and one radiator. The hybrid has one engine with two motors and two batteries and two radiators. The options and trim levels are different for the hybrid. The real costs of the two vehicles are different. The majority of the Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner Hybrid manuals are completely different from the regular Escape manuals. There is no difference in the manuals or training for working on the XLS/XLT/Limited models. IF it should be merged with anything it should be its twin the Mercury Mariner Hybrid. 162.58.82.244 05:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)jmerrow
- Mercury Mariner Hybrid already redirects here. raekwon 20:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
IMHO, this vehicle is a hybrid first, an Escape second. I can't see the logic of merging the two articles, and based on the above comments, there seems to be consensus after three months. I'm going to remove the merge notice; the record in this talk page should be sufficient if somebody else wants to persue the idea. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Gas Tank
This article, under the "Performance" section, claims that this vehicle "has demonstrated it can travel 400–500 miles on a single tank of gasoline in city driving". However, no mention of the size of the gas tank is given. Is it a 10-gallon tank? 15? 20? 30? Shoot, my car could get 400-500 miles in city driving if I had a large enough gas tank. Without the gas tank size, this is really relatively unhelpful. -- ClintFord 15:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Efficiency comparisons
It seems to me efficiency comparisons should also compare it to hybrid non SUVs (like the Prius) and non-hybrid efficient non SUVs. While SUVs may be a different class of vechile, IMHO it's a valid and relevant comparison since many people who use them do not actually require the performance or offroad capabilities. Anyone with the time and knowledge should do this for this article and the other hybrid SUV articles Nil Einne 07:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Inaccurate mention of city mileage
The article states a common misconception, that hybrids get better mileage in the city. This is false. They do achieve high EPA city mileage scores, but in real-world driving they are always most efficient on the highway. CGameProgrammer 06:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
My mileage on my 4WD FEH is about 31 City/28 Highway for a lifetime average of 30.5 mpg. That is based on 18000 miles worth of tracking my mileage.
The concept of "real world driving" is in itself a vast oversimplification. You cannot categorically say that it is FALSE that hybrids get better mileage in the city. Highway driving leaves less room for error, so it is easier to get consistent mileage on a long trip, that is true. Just set the cruise control, for example, and you're good to go for consistent mileage. City driving opens up a lot of possibilities for driver errors like jackrabbit starts or not anticipating stops. It is a heck of a lot less consistent, but that does not mean that highway speeds are always the best. I drive a Toyota Prius. Generally, around truly brutal stop-and-go traffic, i don't hit 60+ MPG. Even if you could run on battery power all the time in stop and go traffic, eventually the battery will drain, and you'll have to fall back to burning gas... but there are a LOT of scenarios where i do get 60 or 70 MPG, and they are almost always NOT the 55 to 65 MPH highway speed scenario. The best kinds of roads for me are surface streets with very few stops, and a speed limit between 35 and 45 MPH. I have had half an hour segments at well over 80 MPG. LaughingMan11 08:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Update needed
The article discusses 2006 as if it's the future, so some updating is needed. Beyond the simple tense changes, someone will need to verify the sales counts vs estimates for 2006, and the status of the Tribute hybrid also mentioned. --Vossanova o< 20:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
