Forever (Spice Girls album)

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Forever
Forever cover
Studio album by Spice Girls
Released November 6, 2000
Recorded 1999-2000
Genre Pop/R&B
Length 49:28
Label Virgin
Producer(s) Matt Rowe
Richard Stannard
Darkchild
Harvey Mason, Jr.
Fred Jerkins III
Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis
Professional reviews
Spice Girls chronology
Spiceworld
(1997)
Forever
(2000)


Forever is the third and final album by the English pop group the Spice Girls, released in 2000 (see 2000 in music). The album was the only one after Geri Halliwell's departure.

Contents

[edit] Track listing

  1. "Holler" (Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III, Spice Girls) – 4:15
  2. "Tell Me Why" (Rodney Jerkins, Fred Jerkins III, LaShawn Daniels, Mischke Butler, Spice Girls) – 4:13
  3. "Let Love Lead the Way" (Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III, Harvey Mason Jr, Spice Girls) – 4:57
  4. "Right Back At Ya" (Elliot Kennedy, Tim Lever, Spice Girls) – 4:09
  5. "Get Down With Me" (Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Daniels, Fred Jerkins III, Robert Smith, Mischke Butler, Spice Girls) – 3:45
  6. "Wasting My Time" (Fred Jerkins III, LaShawn Daniels, Spice Girls) – 4:13
  7. "Weekend Love" (Rodney Jerkins, Fred Jerkins III, LaShawn Daniels, Spice Girls) – 4:04
  8. "Time Goes By" (Fred Jerkins III< Rodney Jerkins, LaShawn Daniels, Mischke Butler, Spice Girls) – 4:51
  9. "If You Wanna Have Some Fun" (James Harris III, Terry Lewis, Spice Girls) – 5:25
  10. "Oxygen" (James Harris III, Terry Lewis, Spice Girls) – 4:55
  11. "Goodbye" (Richard Stannard, Matt Rowe, Spice Girls) – 4:35

[edit] Credits

[edit] Personnel

[edit] Singles

[edit] Canceled Singles

Further planned singles to be released off the album never materialized in 2001. However promotional singles of the songs, Weekend Love, If You Wanna Have Some Fun and Tell Me Why surfaced and went into circulation. Weekend Love was to be the second single within the US and Asia (fifth in the UK and third in Europe and Australia). All US promotional singles were trashed by Virgin Records, however some singles managed to leak from the (US) record companies printing room. The most popular promo single is the one from Asia, which can be found sporadically on eBay. If You Wanna Have Some Fun was set to be the second single within the UK (forth in the US, Asia, Europe and the Australian region). Virgin Records had composed a promotional music video of concert footage of the girls. This video was created as a stalling tacit till the official video was released. However the official video never surfaced due to cancellation. Tell Me Why was the next single and by far the most popular single. The song was to be released as the third single within the US, Asia, UK and the second single in the Australian and European regions. Remixes were provided by Thunderpuss and Jonathan Peters. The promo single for Tell Me Why is still obtainable through collectors and bidding internet stores. The single even went on to become a massive club hit for the girls.

UK
Holler
If You Wanna Have Some Fun
Tell Me Why
Weekend Love

US/Asia
Holler
Weekend Love
Tell Me Why
If You Wanna Have Some Fun

Europe/Australia
Holler / Let Love Lead The Way
Tell Me Why
Weekened Love
If You Wanna Have Some Fun

[edit] Additional personnel

  • Susan Drake — background vocals
  • Eliot Kennedy — background vocals

[edit] Production

  • Producers: Rodney Jerkins, Harvey Mason, Jr., Matt Rowe, Richard Stannard
  • Engineers: Adrian Bushby, Paul Foley, Ben Garrison, Brad Gilderman, Steve Hodge, Ian Robertson, Dave Russell, Tony Salter
  • Assistant engineers: Jake Davies, Bradley Yost
  • Mixing: Ben Garrison, Brad Gilderman, Steve Hodge, Fred Jenkins III, Rodney Jerkins, Jan Kybert, Mark "Spike" Stent, Paul Waller, Bradley Yost
  • Mastering: Bernie Grundman
  • Digital editing: Harvey Mason, Jr.
  • Vocal production assistance: LaShawn Daniels, Susan Drake, Eliot Kennedy
  • Drum programming: Paul Waller
  • String arrangements: Will Malone
  • Design: Vince Frost
  • Photography: Terry Richardson

[edit] Charts and Sales

[edit] Album

It is impossible to inform the exact sales of Forever worldwide, but it's apparent that its sales are far below the numbers of Spice Girls' previous albums, which sold 35.2million copies combined globally (according to their presentation at The Brit Awards in 2000). In December 2000, EMI confirmed (via their website) that 2.3million of Forever had been shipped globally, but sales remain significantly below that figure as many of the shipment went unsold. That is illustrated by looking at France; only 15,000 copies of the 100,000 that were sent out in France were sold, and the album peaked at #43 on the album chart.

It was their first album not to top the UK album chart, peaking at #2; in the United States, it debuted just within the top forty, at #39, but quickly fell completely out of the chart. Forever shipped over 300,000 copies in UK, earning a Platinum certification; it barely sold 200,000 copies in the U.S. Forever's best chart performance was possibly in Brazil, where it went to #1 on the album sales chart.

Chart Forever
Peak Position Sales Certificate Shipments
UK Albums Chart #2 Platinum 300,000
(280,000 sold)
Top Canadian Albums #6 2xPlatinum 200,000
The Billboard 200 #39 200,000
Brazil Albums Chart #1 Gold 100,000
French Albums Chart #43 N 100,000
(15,000 Sold)
German Albums Chart #6 Gold 150,000
Japan Albums Chart #12 39,500
China Albums Chart #6 150,000
Mexican Top 100 Albums #21 Gold 50,000
New Zealand Album Chart Gold 7,500
Netherlands Gold 40,000
Polish #9 Gold 15,000
Swiss Albums Chart Platinum 50,000
Korean Albums Chart 12,159
(Sold)

N/c = Not Certified
Blank = Information not known/unconfirmed

[edit] Chart runs

  • -- indicates album left the chart
Top100 UK Album Chart
Week 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
Position
2
16
32
37
35
43
49
62
80
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93
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Top100 US Album Chart
Week 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
Position
39
78
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Top75 French Album Chart
Week 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
Position
43
67
69
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Top100 German Album Chart
Week 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12
Position
6
19
31
47
50
67
83
89
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[edit] Singles

Year Single Chart Position
2000 "Holler/Let Love Lead The Way" UK Singles Chart #1
2000 "Holler/Let Love Lead The Way" Ireland Singles Chart #3
2001 "Let Love Lead The Way/Holler" Australian Singles Chart #2
2000 "Holler" Polish Chart #1 (2 weeks)
2000 "Holler" Canadian Singles Chart #2
2000 "Holler" Hot Dance Music/Club Play #31
2000 "Holler" Billboard R&B/Hip Hop Chart #5
2000 "Holler" Rhythmic Top 40 #40
2000 "Let Love Lead the Way" Polish Chart #1 (1 Week)
2000 "Let Love Lead the Way" Canadian Singles Chart #5

[edit] The making of Forever

In August 1999, the Spice Girls began work again on their third studio album. Together with Richard Stannard and Matt Rowe, the girls began writing for the album at Abbey Road Studios in London. Several tracks emerged, including the songs "Treasure", "Go, Go, Go", "Overnight" and "W.O.M.A.N" – but none of the tracks made it onto the final album and none, with the exception of "W.O.M.A.N" – which was performed live on the Christmas In Spice World UK Tour in 1999, have been heard. The group also worked with Eliot Kennedy ("Say You'll Be There", "Love Thing") at the Steelworks Studios in Sheffield in mid-August, and the main track to emerge was "Right Back At Ya" – which was showcased in the Christmas tour and eventually made it onto the third album.

On August 25 the group returned to London and began work with American R&B producer, Rodney "Darkchild" Jerkins – who had previously worked with Whitney Houston, Brandy, Aaliyah, Michael Jackson and Toni Braxton – at the Whitfield Street Studios. Eager to develop their sound and image the group wanted a more American and urban edge in a desire to stay fresh and connect with a maturing fanbase. The tracks that emerged included the songs "Holler", "Let Love Lead The Way" and "Weekend Love" – all of which made it onto the final cut. On September 21, the girls returned to the Whitfield Street Studios, this time to hook up with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis – the men who turned Prince and Janet Jackson into global megastars, and who had worked with the likes of Mariah Carey, Michael Jackson, Usher and Mary J. Blige. The result was the two most critically acclaimed tracks on the album – "If You Wanna Have Some Fun" and "Oxygen".

In September, work on Third Time Around (the working title for the album) ceased; Melanie C embarked on a solo tour in an effort to boost Northern Star’s disappointing sales and both Emma Bunton and Melanie B began recording their solo material. It wasn’t until April 10, 2000 – seven months after the London Sessions and nearly two years since Geri’s departure, that work resumed on the album at the Hit Factory in Miami, USA. "Tell Me Why", "Get Down With Me" and "Time Goes By" were all written with Rodney "Darkchild" Jerkins – but Melanie C doesn’t feature on the writing credits. At the time she was still concentrating on her solo career so the material was written without her, and she put her vocals on afterwards. The shape of the new album was now taking place and the group decided that the material recorded with Matt & Biff the previous year would be shelved because it didn’t fit in with the RnB dominated material they had recorded with Darkchild and Jam&Lewis. The only song to survive to cull was "Right Back At Ya" – but only after it was heavily remixed by Darkchild, something which original producer Eliot Kennedy found very insulting. They had turned one of the best pop tracks he had ever done and turned it into a "plodding, boring, bottom drawer R&B song", in his opinion.

Now that the pop tracks had been taken off Forever, the girls needed to record more material to bolster the album. On July 17 they returned to Whitfield Street Studios and recorded "Wasting My Time" with Fred Jerkins (which doesn’t feature vocals by Melanie B or writing credits by Victoria) and they remixed "Right Back At Ya".

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