User talk:Fluffball70

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TBH I am finding wikipedia very complicated and time-consuming, so to try and make this simple.

I have posted a short link and contribution to the Lilly Parr article. Could you please contact me for more information on the subject? chat@sthelenschat.co.uk

Please delete the above if inappropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dallo100 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Minorities Research Group

I made a bunch of spelling corrections, and another editor got one right that I hadn't, but there was one spelling repeated several times that has me worried. Given the name of the article I changed all "Minorites" -> "Minorities", but there were more than a couple. Could you check that 'Minorities' is right? The change I did is this. Shenme 11:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi there Shenme. You were correct about my spelling of Minorities! Thanks! I am dyslexic and don't always see missing i's etc,etc. I am in the process of updating the article today and will run a more thorough check, when I'm done.

Fluffball70 11:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Life's funny. I can read some Chinese, but get tongue-tied. :-) Shenme 11:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Invitations

Heya, I'd like to invite you to join WikiProject LGBT studies on the basis of your work so far. If you're interested, I am happy to adopt you as well. Would you be interested in either? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Add your name to our membership list and you're in! As for adoption, add {{adoptee|Dev920}} to your userpage, and it's official! I'm fairly new to the adoption process myself, but here's how I'm currently working: you are welcome to contact me if you have questions related to anything on Wikipedia, like how to edit, where to go for things etc., if you need help with anything, such as if you get into an argument, or have general problems, or if you just want general advice. I, for my part, will periodically look through your contributions and let you know if you're making any inadvertant mistakes. That sound OK? Would you like to suggest or change anything? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome!

Hi, Fluffball70, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles of interest to the LGBT community. Some points that may be helpful:

  • Our main aim is to help improve LGBT-related articles, so if someone asks for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able.
  • Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
  • The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there.
  • If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics.
  • If you're planning to stay, have a square in our quilt! You can put anything you want in it.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!

 :D Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

And with the exchange of userboxes, I pronounce thee my lawfullay acquired adoptee. Please feel free to bombard me with as many questions, requests and comments as you desire. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:14, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject newsletter

You signed up just in time. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Fluffball

This is your adoptee-brother qwertyca :-D. Just dropped by to say hi and welcome to Wikipedia. Have lots of fun! Qwertyca 20:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:DYK

Hi - You may not be aware that your new article Una Troubridge has been nominated at T:TDYK as a candidate for the Main Page. It is recent enough (less than 5 days old) but not quite long enough (1,500 characters or more). Can you expand it at all? -- ALoan (Talk) 23:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Great - the article seems to have been pretty short on 1 March, so 5 days after 3 March is the critical date - are you likely to be able to expand it by then? -- ALoan (Talk) 20:43, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
You didn't close the ref bracket on your final reference, you silly sausage. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
OMG - that is absolutely fan-bloody-tastic. Well done! -- ALoan (Talk) 23:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] minor edits

Heya, I'm noticing that nearly all of your edits are marked minor. I haven't checked them all, but WP:MINOR says that edits marked minor should mean "only superficial differences exist between the current and previous version: typo corrections, formatting and presentational changes, rearranging of text without modifying content, etc." Just to let you know, in case your edits aren't minor. Otherwise, bloody well done on your work to Minorities Research Group! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 11:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Unless there's a reason for using a specific type of English, such as the article being on an American topic or item, it doesn't matter what you write in as long as it's consistent throughout the article. Thus, it would probably be best if you use the system you find yourself using without thinking. I assume that would be British English? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 10:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Heya, just wanted to say well done on the great articles you've been writing. Another month or two and you'll be able to graduate from the adoption process! Is there any area you're unsure about, perhaps in the wikipedia namespace? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 10:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lili Elbe

Quite a bit of good work with Lili Elbe - Skysmith 11:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dubh Artach

Thanks for your continuing help with this. I have been looking for a modern photo with a free licence for ages, but no luck so far. I will certainly add one if I come across it. The 1960's NLB records are locked away in Edinburgh and hard to access, but I have added some comments about the name change. Ben MacDui (Talk) 08:33, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

[edit] LGBT WikiProject newsletter

SatyrBot 05:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Fluff, I noticed you want to take MRG to GA. You might want to consider entering User:Messedrocker/Contest, it might be a helpful little incentive. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA refs

That's pretty nitpicky. The criteria doesn't say anything about referencing formats. Inline cites aren't even required, cripes, at least it has those. Anyway, go ahead and fail it, the user can resubmit it when they are ready, I think they left town or something. IvoShandor 01:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

As a note, the ref format concern seems to be something from FA that has been trying to sneak its way into GA criteria despite no discussion about it. IvoShandor 01:51, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I am not going to say I don't point it out from time to time. And I am not knocking you for the comment, I really think the GA criteria needs to be talked about, it seems that there are a number of points just like this one that aren't explicitly stated in the criteria but are de facto criteria anyway. IvoShandor 12:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MRG

I think if you're getting that little help from MRG I would recommend you settle it up at GA, fix any errors and just go for FA. However I have found several issues with the article (let me just peer review it for you, why don't I? :) ):

  1. You have a lot of short paragraphs. You should really merge them where possible.
    Without having specifics, I work on a paragraph being 3-5 sentences, but there are some items that really don't belong to anything else Fluffball70
  2. There are some dreadful spelling errors, which is something I've been noticing in a lot of your work. Every time you finish an article, get someone in from WP:LoCE to look at it for you.
    Yes, that sounds like me! I have very little concept of when a word is spelt right or not, but have a better idea of grammar. In my daily life Microsoft Word tells me these things and I have just pasted the entire article into word and corrected the spellings. Fluffball70
  3. Would it be possible for you to add See Also and External Links sections?
    I had that originally, but was told to take it out! Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  4. There seems to be a lot of gaps in your article. For example, this org is referred to in the past tense, but no reference is made to its demise. What happened to it?
    I have now added a 'The End' section to make it more clear. I wouldn't say it died...its members evolved its concepts into other groups that still exist today. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Why was the organisation formed, and who by? What did the group actually do?

  1. I don't understand these questions as this is stated clearly in the first two paragraphs. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

How did Esme Langley acquire these three sons?

  1. The sources of all three sons are unclear other than what is said in Jill Gardiner's book. The important thing I have added is the reference to Esme Langley's book, which certainly talks about her first son. I have an autographed orginal ~50 year old copy, but was reluctant to put it in the article as it is too old and out of print to have an ISBN and I doubt if there are many copies around for people to reference. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

What was the actual content of Arena 3? What was the public reaction to MRG? What was the gay community's action?

  1. I have added a clearer reference to the article on Arena 3 written by Brighton ourstory and a synopsis of what they said. I think that if a reader wants more info on A3 they will need to vist the Brighton Ourstory archive or the Glasgow Women's library Lesbian archive(Whenever it reopens again...a very sad state of affairs :(). Sadly, the magazine and MRG is very underated, which is why I was keen to write this article. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

What you may find helpful is to read through your article and note all the things that a reader completely new to the subject would want to know.

  1. There are lots of things that I'd like to know too! Many areas on this subject could be developed, but I understand that most of it is not documented elsewhere and is languishing in storage boxes care of the Lesbian Archive and Infomation Centre in Glasgow. Brighton Ourstory has some info and there are lots of private individuals who can only really provide personal refernces. In some areas I can only provide someting of a start, in hope that someone in the future will be able to develop it more. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. What is the reference articles section for? How does it relate to the article?
    Th references is where all the infomation came from for the article. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I am aware of that, but I meant the reference articles section. You haven't cited them anywhere. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  1. The article seems very dependant on one source, From the Closet to the Screen. Can you find any more?
    From the Closet to the screen is currently the best source and it is still in print. I have three or four other books that are relevant,out of print and not as good. I am sourcing one more, but as of yet I do not know it's quaility. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  2. The Esme Langley section appear to be a short biography. How does this relate to the article?
    She was an essential key to the group. I am debating on giving her her own article. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  3. This organisation needs to be put into context. I might know what the situation of British lesbians in the 70s was, but a Japanese businessman won't. You might want to put in a background section about the then current law and societal attitudes to lesbians, the progress to that point in gay rights (such as the legalisation of sodomy in 1967), gay culture of the time etc.
    Unfortnately, it's very difficult to find quotes for that. I will have a look around, but i have added a lot to 'The End' section. Fluffball70 10:56, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

I think this article needs a lot more work, to be honest, there'a lot of gaps.

On GA, I think you might benefit from viewing the GA evaluations at Talk:Washington_Blade. It contains evaluations by two different people with three different outcomes, which might help you get a good grasp. See also WP:WIAGA. Please don't worry about lack of peer review interest and the interminable wait for GA status, our backlog seems to be a growing problem across all of Wikipedia. Well get there. :) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 00:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, we're an encyclopedia and about the facts Fluff. The article can't be promoted until it is comprehensive and complete, not on the basis that there's more information to be found that you simply haven't accessed yet. To be honest, I don't know what the situation is on an article where most of the content is "still in boxes". But I don't think it bodes well. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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