User talk:Flamekeeper

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[[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Arb Com election]] 09:47, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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I moved your comment to Talk:Adolf_Hitler#Dispute_zentrum. Its best to put comments at the bottom of the page, and give them their own heading, so they get read. Feel free to correct that error in the article, btw. Glad to have you, [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Arb Com election]] 09:47, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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Dear Flamekeeper, what's wrong with you. Please stop your ranting and articulate your point so that it can be understood. Rest assured, whenever and wherever you post your intelligible "question of the law", you will get the same answer:

Dear Flamekeeper, if the three people in question did break this law they are now out of reach for the jurisdiction of the pope. But I don't think they are guilty of that. It was the German people (and I speak as a German) that voted for Hitler (whose party nonetheless never attained a majority in free elections), not the Pius XI, not Pacelli, not Prelate Kaas. It was Germans like Hindenburg father & son, Papen etc that brough Hitler to power, not Pius XI, Pacelli or Kaas. Election statistics show that the two groups largely immune against NS were Catholics and SocialDemocrats/trade unionists. You might citicize Kaas' bargaining with the Hitler government, but what would you do if someone was about to take your car by force? Would you not try to sell it to him, if possible. That's what Kaas did, he traded in his (doomed) Centre party to get some guarantees. Or a you criticize the Concordate? It was a treaty between the Holy See and the German Republic, still under President Hindenburg. Before 1933 the Church would have loved to make a concordate, but there was no majority avaiable. Now, why should they blow this opportunity? If the Hitler government would be short lived, as many expected, why not use this opportunity? If however, Hitler were here to stay, so much more of a need to set up rules and to protect the Church under an upcoming tyranny. Or do you criticize Pius XI for issuing "Mit brennender Sorge"? Or Pius XII for protecting many Italian Jews? And what would you have done?

Str1977 23:28, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

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