Talk:Flags of unrecognized states
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[edit] Somaliland recognition
Wales is not a state, and so cannot afford recognition to Somaliland. Unless there is some objection, it should be removed from the list of states recognizing Somaliland.
- Has the Ethiopia story actually been verified anywhere, or should we remove the recognised by one state bit? Horses In The Sky talk contributions
[edit] Sealand
Why doesn't Sealand count? It has declared independence and claims jurisdiction over territory so I think it fits in here? --Horses In The Sky 11:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- It belongs in micronations. We use the Montevideo Convention as criteria, and in the spirit of the convention "permanent population" means more than just 2 or 3 family members. - Mauco 13:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Well, you better edit the wiki for Montevideo Convention, since their they claim that same convention gives Sealand legal claims.TchussBitc 02:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It's not a matter of what Sealand claims - it's a matter of what most of the rest of the world thinks.--Gene_poole 03:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Isn't the title of the article "unrecognized states". Sealand claims to be a state, but the rest of the world does not validate their claims. That would be justification to add that nation. I concede that Sealand is a pathetic joke compared to some of the other nations mentioned but none the less, it still is an unrecongonized state.TchussBitc 06:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
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To put Sealand in the same category as serious unrecognised states as Chechnya, Transdnistria or Puntland is totally inappropriate in my view. 1 eccentric family occupying a decrepit sunken barge in the English Channel is a micronation - not an unrecognised state. Most people - as far as I've seemn - agree with this analysis. --Gene_poole 08:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Chechnya does not qualify
There are dozens of 'states' in the same position as Chechnya which do not qualify, so why should it? Chechnya has a secessionist movement which has proven to be unsuccessful like so many other movements--this does not qualify it for status as an unrecognized state. OZLAWYER talk 18:18, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Khalistan
Shouldn't Khalistan be listed in list of unrecognized states? Gsingh 20:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Not really because there has never been an organisation that declared itself to be the government of Khalistan and noone has ever issued a decree of Khalistani independence. Horses In The Sky talk contributions
[edit] Somaliland and Turkish Cyprus Double Standard?
Well under Northern Cyprus it says "Recognized by one state" in reference to Turkey, but accodring to its article, Somaliland is recognized by both Ethiopia and Wales. I know the Wales "recognition" is disputed but it clearly says "Although not recognized by any government except Ethiopia...", so why dosen't it say "Recognized by one state" under somaliland? --72.144.171.151 01:33, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- It is probably not so much a double standard but more a reflection of two different editors adding the different content at different point in times. You can say the same thing in more than one way. For consistency, it would be nice to use the convention all throughout the article. So: be bold, my anonymous friend. - Mauco 02:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
===>Further speculation The Ethiopia thing is almost certainly not true, and the Wales issue is an exaggeration, and irrelevant as it is not a state. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 02:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Puntland
Puntland should not be included in this list in my view because according to Puntland the area has stated "Puntland considered itself as an autonomous state within Somalia.". -- RND talk 19:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Feel free to remove it then. It is not even clear what exactly the design of the Puntland flag is. --Himasaram 22:36, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
