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[edit] Greetings!

Hi, glad to see you have started editing in Wikipedia. I hope you will soon expand your user page some, so I can learn more about you. The ex-gay subject matter is the cause of quite a bit of controversy in the German wikipedia, too, by the way.--Bhuck 10:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome also from the Opera Project

Hi. Delighted to see you are posting about opera directors! - Kleinzach 19:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Das Rheingold Characters List

Hello. I noticed your clear table on the characters. There is already one at Der Ring des Nibelungen, and perhaps that one should be reformatted according to your style. In the individual articles, do you think we should just link to the main page, or should each have separate lists? --Alexs letterbox 06:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Good point... I created a discussion section here. Fireplace 15:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Homosexual agenda

I see that you've been making a series of small, reasonable changes to the article, and I just want to say that your efforts are appreciated. Al 14:44, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Al. I hate to agree with him but he is right sometimes. :-) I came here specifically just to thank you and I see he beat me to it. --Anon 64 20:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

You're both welcome, and it's nice working with both of you. Fireplace 02:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Felsenstein

This is not clear if it is Bartok's opera, Dukas' od Offenbach's Bluebeard??? (meladina 22:49, 15 June 2006 (UTC))

You're right -- it was Offenbach's. I fixed the article. Fireplace 23:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Der Rosenkavalier

Sigh... I'll admit to not knowing / not checking other opera articles. My understanding of commonly accepted WP philosophy is that recaps of fictional details are non-encyclopedic and belong on wikibooks, with a link from WP. What part of WP:NOT is that? ... Upon having looked, it's not there. My argument was that the plot is simply UE. I won't pursue this further - and leave the final word on the subject to you and the others at the Opera project. Cheers - CrazyRussian talk/email 12:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Die ägyptische Helena cast

Hi. I see you have Jeritza down for this, however the Oxford Dictionary of Opera give Rethberg (with Rajdl and Taucher cond Busch), with Jeritza, Laubenthal and Bodanzky doing the NY prem. on 6 Nov. 1928. Maybe you have another source for this? Best. - Kleinzach 21:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right of course. My eye skipped a line when I added the data. Thanks for double checking my work! Fireplace 23:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Donizetti operas

Thank you for a terrific job on Donizetti! I was really surprised to see all the red links appear as blue!

I've done a bit of editing - and put a couple of questions on the Talk pages which I assume you will see in due course. I have also been through all the Donizetti's operas fixing the genres. The main reason is that the word melodramma has been translated as melodrama/melodrammatic, whereas it really just means opera.

Genre has been a persistent problem on WP (with people translating opéra comique as comic opera etc.) so I think the best way to avoid trouble is to give the original Italian term - which is given in Grove.

Incidentally I start working on a list of pre-recording era singers (User:Kleinzach/Singers of the 17-19th centuries). You are now producing a huge number of new names. I wonder if we can collate them at some stage and make them into some kind of viable list? (Recording era singers are covered (at least from Caruso to Callas) by The Record of Singing).

Best regards. - Kleinzach 13:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi Kleinzach, thanks for the support, and info on genres. I'll take that into account from now on. I wholeheartedly support a centralized project on pre-recording era singers, and I think its potential value as an educational tool is huge. In adding premiere casts, I've been wikilinking every single full name, knowing that this will redlink many non-notable singers (I don't know in advance who's notable and who's not). I guess the next step is to create a messy list page and start sorting it out? Fireplace 15:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes I agree it's difficult to know who is notable and who is not. Buondelmonte is knowledgeable about the early 19th century but the rest of us have no special knowledge. Anyway your work will doubtless uncover quite a lot of blue links as well. Re a possible list, do you have names in any kind of breakdown by period, or voice type or whatever? - Kleinzach 16:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pia de' Tolomei

Hi. I wonder if you had a chance to see the note I left on this one? - According to the short synopsis I have, Pia is married to Nello who is Ghino's brother. Does this correspond with your source? - Kleinzach 17:51, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

This has Ghino as Nello's cousin not brother, but Grove is more reliable. Fixed. Fireplace 17:58, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rosine or Rosina Stoltz?/La favorite/favorita

I have Rosine. Is this wrong? The other thing is that my synopsis is of the Italian version of La Favorita so I'll replace a note to that effect. - Kleinzach 23:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, Grove says Rosine, Stanford says Rosina, and Google turns up both. Perhaps she used both? I'm fine with either. Fireplace 23:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
She was French so Rosine is probably correct. Of course she might have Italianified her name at some point. - Kleinzach 23:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diligence
For all that fantastic work with the Donizettis, and for all those teeming thousands of original cast lists that make the opera articles so much better, I award you this Barnstar. Keep up all the great work! Moreschi 18:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! It's good to feel appreciated =) Fireplace 22:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
No problem. You certainly deserve it! Moreschi 08:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 198.103.172.9

Why are you removing my links and quotes? These are valid from an opposing view. Shouldn't you allow opposing views on the same subject? I have provided links as well.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.103.172.9 (talk • contribs) 11:53, July 20, 2006 (UTC)

Please see your talk page for various warnings. Fireplace 16:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea where to go for that. Again, why are you removing factual links? Stats Canada is a federal department.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.103.172.9 (talk • contribs) 13:21, July 20, 2006 (UTC)

Your edits were written from a non-neutral point of view (see WP:NPOV). Please review Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines. Fireplace 17:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reparative therapy citations

Thanks for adding those citations - its much appreciated! -Smahoney 00:27, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome =) Fireplace 03:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Me thank you, too. Richard Cohen (therapist) emphasizes that r.t. is only for "people who want to change". It would be like involuntary deprogramming" to 'do it to' someone who didn't want it.

Do the psych associations condemn r.t. for volunteers as well, or just a blanket condemnation? --Uncle Ed 01:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Welcome again =) As I understand it, the standard position of the major health and mental health organizations is that there is no evidence that reparative therapy is effective, and that it can actually be harmful. It's a blanket statement. But don't take my word for it: [1]. Fireplace 12:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Same-sex marriage

No, you go ahead. Just so you know, that edit [2] was a revert to an older version. As you can see here [3] he just reverted to a very old version (and moved the text) but stomped on a bunch of other changes. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 22:20, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

As I'm reading the text though, I'm thinking much of it should be NPOVed. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 22:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Heh. I'm having even more trouble figuring out what was done when the hard to follow reverts keep coming. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 22:24, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit conflicts on Same-sex marriage

Oh, go ahead - I'll take a break for now. I was just going through and turning links into references. -Smahoney 22:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

"does this count as one vandalism incident, or 2?"

I think it just counts as one. You didn't let him finish!  :) ~a (user • talk • contribs) 16:10, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Also, I'm not sure if you know this, but you left some of the vandalism behind. Toiletpaper, Champagne, and Felching are still there. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 16:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Whoops, thanks =) Fireplace 16:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
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