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[edit] Skunkweed

No problem about the delete. I debated a long time before adding this one in the first place. I've lived in Austin, which claims "live music capitol of the world" status, for seven years. Music is a little bit of a different animal here, as you can drive at least five different streets in town on a Thursday, Friday or Saturday night with your windows down and you will hear band after band after band performing live at just about every restaurant, club, bar and coffeehouse. There are quite a few performances on weeknights as well.

Here, there are bands that are hugely popular and sell out large venues within hours that appear, at least, to make little or no effort to get a major label. Quite frankly, they probably pocket more of their own money that way. I've been trying to fill in some of the holes with some of the groups that are "on the cusp" as far as Wikipedia notability. As I stated before, a line has to be drawn somewhere. There are plenty of bands around here that really have no business on Wikipedia.

Regional notability can lead to fuzzy lines that can be argued from editor to editor. For instance what is notable on English Wikipedia would not necessarily be notable on say, Italian Wikipedia, and that's fine. The sad fact of the matter is that it wouldn't be practical to subdivide further and have, for instance, a Texas wiki encyclopedia. This means that subjects that are perfectly notable and might be worthy of an article within that narrowed scope have no practical place to exist the way that something that is nationally notable, but not necessarily internationally notable, does.

Fortunately there is some sort of litmus test regarding music, but with many nationally notable bands leaving their labels within the last couple of years and the internet aiding in the rise of the national independent artist, we may be on the verge of a change in the importance and relevance of the major label. Only time will tell. If so, the album project may have to eventually revise that test.

At least for now, we have our arbitrary line. In hindsight, I view Vallejo as just above that line and Skunkweed just below. Although Skunkweed is technically a San Antonio band, they play Austin and make appearances on Austin radio stations quite frequently. I consider this the most popular band around that will likely never really "make it" in the conventional sense...but you never know. I've made a copy of the articles on my own local file server. If Sony/BMG ever hooks them up, I'll be the first to put the article right back (I won't be holding my breath either).

Warm regards and best of luck to you. --UnhandledException 07:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Common era edit conflict

No problemo re the above... :-) --Centauri 09:21, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

When you edited Dark Lunacy and removed a link, you called it "blacklisted". Does wikipedia actually have a list of "blacklisted" sites or was the term just used to describe a link that violates wikipedia policy? --Wildnox 23:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

There is a list of websites marked as spam that the current wiki software won't let editors add to websites (or leave in when making another edit, as I was doing). Here it is: [1]. I have no opinions about whether that link actually is spam. Fireplace 23:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for linking the list. --Wildnox 23:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Although now I've worked myself into confusion because darklyrics.com isn't on the list. I was given a warning message that named the site though... feel free to try to add it back in and see what happens. Fireplace 23:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Nah, I probably won't add the link again, I kinda didn't like including it in the first place. I'm not even sure why I included it in the article. --Wildnox 23:44, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biases?

Hello, I saw the text you removed from anon. It was uncivil. However, not horribly so.

He/she suggests "removing the religion section and creating a separate article where both views are adequately discussed." I'm not sure if I agree, but it is something to think about. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 22:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

You're right... I keep a very low threshold for removing comments on my talk page from people with bad history (in this case, a user who uses multiple anon IPs, probably has at least one account, and has a record of incivility and inappropriate edits). As far as creating a separate article: sounds good, maybe something here would be a good candidate. Fireplace 22:25, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The privacy vandal

To remove information like that, go here and go to the bottom of the page and follow the instructions. --Woohookitty(meow) 14:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Exodus (organization) move

Hi Tariqabjotu. You're right that the suggested discussion template for discussing page moves wasn't used, but see here: Talk:Exodus (organization)#Page title. There were no objections, and this is a procedural request because a redirect already exists. As the article makes clear, the name of the organization is Exodus International. Thanks. Fireplace 01:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

It's quite common for low-profile articles, like Exodus (organization), to not receive much input, even over long periods of time. Creating a new survey / discussion section (along with adding to WP:RM) helps solicit input from users who normally would not visit page in question. Nevertheless, you can always contact an admin (I am not one) if you disagree and feel the page should be moved immediately. -- tariqabjotu 01:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alive in Christ article

Hi, I've seen some of your edits on Exodus International, and note you live in the Boston area. Alive in Christ is an ex-gay sort of ministry at Park Street Church. I wonder if you would be willing to take a look at the article? Thanks. CApitol3 00:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ex-gay

Thanks for your work on the merger of Ex-gay into Reparative therapy. Rosemary Amey 02:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome to WikiProject LGBT studies!

Hi, Fireplace, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles of interest to the LGBT community. Some points that may be helpful:

  • Our main aim is to help improve LGBT-related articles, so if someone asks for help with an article, please try your hardest to help them if you are able.
  • Most important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
  • The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there.
  • If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics.
  • If you're planning to stay, have a square in our quilt! You can put anything you want in it.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!

-- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Consolidation

Thanks for your attention to Reparative therapy; and also to International Healing Foundation, Same-sex attachment disorder and Richard Cohen. I've want to see all this stuff merged for a long time. Encyclopedias are about accuracy, of course, but good organization is the real key. --Uncle Ed 16:23, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Worldwide view

Hello! I see you disagree that the Homosexual agenda article does not have a worldwide view on the topic. You have written why you think that, but you have done so in the edit summary when reverting my last edit. I guess you and I can agree that the edit summary is not a good place to have a discussion. I have written my arguments on the talk page of the article. You can remove the tag, but please write on the talk page why you did it and let me give you an answer. I, like you, want to improve LGBT-related articles. If you take the time explaining to me why you don´t agree that we put the tag on that article, you will be improving Wikipedia and helping me to be a better Wikipedian, by teaching me the things that you know and I don´t. A.Z. 19:36, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject newsletter

[edit] Category of "women writers" under review for reinstatement

Hi! I hope you will pardon this notice, but the category "women writers" was recently deleted and is now up for deletion review. I noticed that you commented on an earlier discussion about "women" as a qualifier in categories and thought that you might like to know about the current discussion. scribblingwoman 16:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

SatyrBot 05:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ex-gay

I think the articles could be merged, but I haven't had time to read the arguments for/against. Seems reasonable. You might be interested in using your Lexis account to pull off an interesting article on Exodus International from the 2/12 New York Times. It was lengthy; sort of the basis for my jokes on the Talk page for Ex-Gay. --David Shankbone 21:11, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, unfortunately the discussions on reparative therapy and ex-gay get very long and detailed very quickly, which makes input from outside editors difficult. Thanks for the support. (I'd read the Times article -- thanks!) Fireplace 21:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NARTH

Nice work on digging this up. Where did you find it? Got a ref? Joie de Vivre 22:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll add it to the talk page. You might need university access to open it online without paying. Fireplace 22:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
I hate that. Everyone should have access. Joie de Vivre 22:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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