Talk:First Spanish Republic

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[edit] Republic duration

There appears to be a dispute regarding the duration of the 1st Republic. Tradititionally, in Spanish history textbooks, the 1st republic existed from February 1873 to January 1874 (11 months) and had 4 presidents, the last ended his term with the coup of general Pavia in January 1874. If we take into account the period of time from Pavia's coup to general Martinez Campos's coup to restore the monarchy in December 1874, the republic lasted 22 months and had not 4 but 5 presidents. This last period should not be considered part of the 1st Rebublic but rather a transition period: The last president was general Francisco Serrano and since he only held the office by title only and ruled with the monarchists' support, he should not be considered a president of the Republic and thus we have 4 presidents and 11 months. I will revert to 11 months and clarify the situation in the article. Kraenar 19:17, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

If the Spain regime had a president, did not call itself a monarchy, there was no clear monarch as pretender (Amadeo had abdicated while Isabel, Alfonso and Carlos? had claims), and the regime was brought down by a monachist coup, then I would say it was still the First Republic.--Henrygb 22:20, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

A similar case is the Spanish Civil War from 1936 to 1939 in which Spain's political status/regime was/is controversial. Before the appearence of the I Republic, Spain had no monarch, as Isabel II had been exiled to France, but Spain was still a monarchy in accordance with the 1869 Constitution. Likewise, with Pavia's coup the Republic ends and Spain returns to its earlier political status: a constitutional monarchy with no king and with general Serrano as temporary regent. If this is so, why would a coup be needed to restore the rightful heir to the spanish throne, prince Alfonso? because this period in Spanish history, known as the "Sexenio Democrático", started with a coup in 1868 to depose Isabel II and consequently remove the bourbon dynasty from the throne forever, to remove the conservative potiticians from power and to introduce a "true" democracy, under the newly-drafted 1868 Constitution. As prince Alfonso was the son of Isabel II and a bourbon, it is obvious why a coup would be needed, not to restore the monarchy, but to restore the Bourbons to the monarchy. After a reread of the article, I think it should be clarified that the period from Pavia to Martinez Campos's coups does not belong to the I Republic, but to the "Sexenio Democrático" in general. Kraenar 16:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)