Talk:Final girl

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Minor quibble: Were films such as "Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th, Halloween, and A Nightmare on Elm Street" really films with a predominately male audience? MinorEdit June 30, 2005 00:44 (UTC)

you're right. maybe remove the word "predomionantly"... from the second link: Although Clover doesn't claim that these woman are feminist representations of women, she acknowledges their role on a deeper level instead of writing them off as one dimensional damsels in distress, seeing within the Final Girl an evolving woman who learns to not just run and scream but actually fight back and represent female empowerment which the male audience can then identify with. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niz (talk • contribs).

[edit] Androgynous name?

Wikipedia's list of final girls strongly disputes that final girls "often [have] an androgynous name." I only count a handful in the entire lengthy list. I would remove this line unless we can find more proof to the contrary. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MaxVeers (talk • contribs).

Actually, that's one of Clover's rules. But Clover holds that a "final girl" need not be final or a girl, so it's a lot more vague than usually asserted. Шизомби 18:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

This assertion in the article strikes me as original research. The list of final girls is by no means an exhaustive list, nor is the claim supported by an academic source. Unless a third-party source can be found for the claim, it should be removed from the article. -- Exitmoose 06:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phallic appropriation?

Could someone please explain this? Usually I just ignore red (or blue) words that need a dictionary to understand, but the assertion that final girls take up weapons to have a penis-like (?) appendage strikes me as being somewhat silly; my figuring was that they did it to avoid being killed.66.133.180.22 20:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a Clover referance. In her book, she makes the "Phallic appropriation" comment. She isn't saying the girls want a penis, she's saying that the knife (or whatever) is symbolic and represents a penis. The male killer stabs (penitrates) his female victims with a phallic object. The final girl then takes the object away and penitrates him. 70.249.81.26 00:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] and then again

In many episodes of The Avengers, the Villain targets a group of people (scientists who worked on project X, directors of corporation Y, witnesses to event Z) – of whom Steed and Cathy/Emma/Tara save exactly one. —Tamfang 04:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)