Talk:Filius Flitwick

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As far as the origin of Flitwick's name goes, "Flit" is an antiquated disparaging term for a male homosexual. (See The Catcher In The Rye for multiple occurrences.) This, combined with some of Professor Flitwick's arguably effeminate qualities, have caused a lot of readers to wonder whether the name is one of J.K. Rowling's many double-entendres. Furthermore, if Flitwick is supposed to be a crypto-homosexual character, that is an interesting point in its own right. I'd like to allude to this in the article but am not sure how do do so diplomatically. Any thoughts?

I'd say no, unless you have a source from HP cannon or an interview with JKR. --MrBawn 02:15, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious, where did you find the first name "Filius"?

Thanks!

Rosemary Amey 04:42, 21 May 2004 (UTC) (aka Rowena Lupin, House Leader of Ravenclaw, Hogwartsnews).

Here, scroll down to the section explaining his first name.

Thanks! Rosemary Amey 18:21, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
This is now canon in book. Sonic Mew | talk to me 12:55, July 17, 2005 (UTC)


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[edit] Loyalty?

Is Flitwick a known member of the Order? --MrBawn 02:12, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

I haven't seen any indication that he is a member of the Order, so I took that out. He is definitely loyal to Dumbledore, so I put that in instead. -- Kam Tonnes 02:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

He wasn't at the picture that Moody showed to Harry, and we never heard of him doing something for the order. Also, in book 5, Dumbledore and McGonagall aren't at Hogwarts, so Harry knows Snape is the only member of the Order who's still at Hogwarts. I think we can conclude Flitwick isn't a member. Ajox 18:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

I added details, removed repetitive information, and rearranged for a better flow. I also clarified Flitwick's Goblin ancestry. And I took out "half-breed" because I think in Harry Potter's world it is an insulting term. This is my very first edit, so I'm open to any feedback. Thanks! Kam Tonnes 01:27, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Citing Book References

As an experiment, I've added parenthetical references to specific chapters in the Harry Potter books showing where various facts are to be found. I think this makes it easier for readers and editors to see where the information came from and makes it more trustworthy. What do you all think about this? -- Kam Tonnes 20:23, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

I've learned a little about templates now, so I made some for chapter references. I'm interested in feedback on these. Are they annoying? Helpful? Too distracting? Too subtle? -- Kam Tonnes 02:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
I agree with Borisblue (bottom of this page). The citations are a bit annoying. If you want to cite all the information, you'd be better off using little superscript numbers and/or letters and placing the citations at the bottom of the article. --¿ WhyBeNormal ? 20:36, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I can hardly read the article. 01:08, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree with the above comments that the citations bog the article down and make it hard to read...footnotes might be better, but could also get thick. I don't think that all of the citations are really necessary, but I'm not going to take the liberty to change them just because of my opinion. I think this discussion should continue further. Clarkefreak ∞ 02:33, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I guess there have been many times when I have read information in the Harry Potter articles, and I think, where is that said in the books? I've read the books multiple times and I think I have a pretty good memory for what is in them. My feeling is that the citations help people trust the information. I hoped that making them small and grey would make them less obnoxious. But if most people think they are more annoying than useful, then we can remove them. -- Kam Tonnes 04:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flitwick's past

Where does it say Flitwick was dashing and handsome in his younger days? And where does it say he taught Lily and James? I've skimmed through the books, and I can't find that information anywhere. -- Kam Tonnes 02:41, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I think the first statement comes from Lockhart, during the Valentine's day chapter in CoS (though I'm not sure, if we can count Lockhart's words as canon). And the second is based on Snape's worst memory, where he is seen during the Pensieve scene. By the way, I love your idea to add the chapters too the information. Neville Longbottom 15:08, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flitwick's drink preferences

I have removed the following sentence from the article...

  • He once ordered a cherry syrup and soda with ice and umbrella at the Three Broomsticks. --BDD 21:27, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] citations?

Does anyone else think they make the article hard to read?Borisblue 06:47, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

I agree. It's too bad, though; they're a good idea. Anyone know a way to make them less intrusive without deleting them? Allen 18:02, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] GoF film appearance

I've only seen the GoF movie once, and I wasn't sure when it was over just who the short brown-haired man conducting the orchestra was supposed to be. The "trivia" section here seems to be saying that was Flitwick. Am I interpreting that right? If so, that's a pretty radical retconning of the man's physical appearance, which would perhaps deserve to be more explicitly pointed out in the "trivia" section. What do you all think? --Allen 17:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The short man is indeed Filius Flitwick. ;)

[edit] As Goblin Bank Teller?

The Verne Troyer article lists him as being "the goblin bank teller." Were there two of them, or is there some confusion here? -Fuzzy 21:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The Internet Movie Database has Troyer as Griphook the Goblin and Davis as Flitwick and a Goblin bank teller. See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0241527/. I hope that helps. -- Kam Tonnes 02:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Warwick Davis made the voice for Griphook the Goblin. ;) --Chewie 03:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Notes about his past' section

The information in the first sentence there seems to have no source. It is only rumored in the second book that he was a dueling champion; it is nowhere said he was intelligent when he was younger, that only can be inferred from his magical power; and no desciption of him as handsome or a pensieve describing him as handsome exist that I know of. Please correct me if there are sources for any of this.

Lee S. Svoboda tɑk 20:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

Do we know how to pronounce his name (per Rowling) ? Are we sure it isn't Flittick, like the place ? -- Beardo 21:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] parentage?

It says on Rowling's website that Flitwick is NOT part goblin. So, I'll take that out for now, ok? Keyblade Mage 17:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)Keyblade Mage

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