Talk:Filipino orthography

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[edit] Filipinized spelling

I pointed out in the links section the fact that there are many possible ways to Filipinize a foreign word using the 2001 rules (which is merely a green light for the use of letters not native to Tagalog). Examples are:

• geography (if not heograpiya or heografiya): jiyografi, jiografi (if indeed intervocalic glottal stops would not anymore exist in Filipino);
• scholar: skolar (we can’t just ignore the fact that many Metro Manileños can pronounce initial /s/-clusters), iskolar, eskolar, skalr, eskalr, iskalr;
• Filipinized (if not Filipinisado): Filipinayzd, Filipinazd, Filipinozd;
• trivia: trivya, triviya, trivia (see note on jiografi above), tribya;
• social: sosyal, sowsyal, sowsyl, sosyl;
• gigante: higante, hegante (as used in the blog), syigante, syegante;
• extra: ekstra, ikstra, estra, istra;
• Australia: Ostreliya, Ostrelya, Ostrelia (see note on jiografi above), Ostraya, Straya, (or even) Estraya, Istraya (and for Spanish) Awstralya, Australia (again, see note on jiografi).

And those are just some. Personally, I would just let foreign words assimilate themselves naturally into Filipino over time. After all, accents abound, and transcription (without regard to etymology) would result in either a multitude of spellings (as demonstrated above) or the unacceptable imposition (as opposed to gradual and consensual acceptance among the general populace) of a single set of pronunciation rules. —Lagalag 13:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collation/Order

What is the order now? Does K still follow B, or has it now returned to following J? Joemaza 22:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

The alphabet used since 1987 (I think) for Filipino, is 28 letters. So the same order as in English, with Ñ and the digraph NG. So yes, K is after J. --Chris S. 03:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

This is probably more of a consistency issue, but while the UP Filipino Dictionary (at least the 1^st edition) lists the entries under Ñ and NG after those of N, within entries of the same letter the combination ‘ng’ almost always comes before ‘ny’. —Lagalag 21:32, 9 December 2006 (UTC)