Talk:Fiesta (dinnerware)

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[edit] Name of article should be changed. FIESTA vs. fiestaware

As the main article is about the line of dinnerware, invented and designed by Frederick Hurten Rhead while he was Art Director at Homer Laughlin China Company, and is still produced and marketed by that same Homer Laughlin China Company of Newell, West Virigina, I strongly suggest that the name of this article be changed to FIESTA from its current Fiestaware.

The official name of this line of dinnerware was originally, and is still, and has always been simply FIESTA. The term *fiestaware* is a nickname which the consumer public adopted early on, and collectors still casually use, however that term (fiestaware) can also and does also have a generic meaning when used casually. Because of FIESTA's extraordinary success from its very first introduction, the consumer public early on began to refer to ALL solid color dinnerware as *fiestaware*. And in that category they lump the other solid color lines of HLC such as, Harlequin, Riviera, and even Jubilee, Serenade, and Rhythm, as well as most other manufacturers' solid color dinnerware. Competitor manufacturers seized on this popularity to the extent that in the early days, HLC brought a lawsuit against some other manufacturers and tradmark registered the word/name FIESTA, along with the logo created by the script. So in view of the fact that this article is about that specific line of dinnerware, I ask that the name of this article be changed to FIESTA, and let the search term *fiestaware* redirect to it, instead of the other way around.

As an alternative, if the name of the article be kept as it is, then the entire current article about FIESTA must become a subsection of a larger article, which may grow quite large, as other subsections on the varous other historic and colletible solid color wares be added to it. I encourage the first change (rename this article to FIESTA) and let the other solid color glazed dinnerware and pottery be described under their own manufacturers' or specific named articles. JackME 14:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

It's now Fiesta (dinnerware). BTW, it's not "FIESTA" because the Manual of Style for trademarks indicates lowercase. ENeville 18:05, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for moving/renaming this article to reflect the proper name of this dinnerware line. In my arguement comments here in Talk, bold capitalization of the name was used to emphasize the distinction between Fiesta and Fiestaware, as experience has proved that this distinction is lost on many and that was the point of my arguing for a change to the article title.

On the removal of all bolding from the text body, while I can appreciate that some would prefer the current "debolded" article, I ask for a reconsideration of this specifically on the names of the colors.

It is my opinion that many who are interested in Fiesta, are indeed first interested in the names and descriptions of the colors, therefore that is essential primary information. Without the bolding, the names and descriptons of the original five, and subsequent addtional sixth color of the vintage are lost in the text. As is the later addtional colors of the 1950s and 1960s. And the same can be said for the names and descriptions of the colors of the new era Fiesta. By bolding the color names as they were, the article text was essentially given an easily and quickly scanned visual outline, without actually having to repeat information of dates and time lines of each color in a separate section of the article. As it stands now, in my opinion the article will need a separate chart or listing of all colors with each corresponding date of manufacture. Ultimately I would think that would take up more encyclopedic room than simply bolding the color names as they are presented and described in the article body text.JackME 01:59, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

That's a good argument. I think bolding the colors is a plausible approach, though I do think alot of bolding impinges on readability, and perhaps listing the colors with bullets (*) would be better, and nicely break up the blocks of text, to boot. Also, I think a chart may a good idea, now that you mention it. ENeville 16:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

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-Question: Does modern Fiestaware (the kind currently being produced today) contain any uranium in its glaze or possess any detectable radioactivity? If so, how does the amount compare to the original kind from the 1930s?

I am not speaking in any official HLC company capacity, but I don't believe any contemporary Fiesta glaze contains Uranium. They definitely do not contain any lead. JackME 01:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

New Fiestaware doesn't contain radioactive materials. I think that it was vanadium that was used in the old glaze, and uranium ore is found nearby vanadium deposits, so uranium got into the plates. Anyone have any information on this?

The ingredient was Uranium Oxide and was used heavily in the composition of the "red" glaze and less so, bt also some in the Ivory glaze. JackME 11:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)