Talk:Ferrari Dino engine

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[edit] 120 degree v6 Dino

Where is the 120 degree v6 Dino used in the formula racing? it is not mentioned.
It is a legend.
The optimal balance for the v6, and it isn't even mentioned on the page with
the nickname of the infamous racing design. Can someone edit?
Bgd73 03:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

The 120 degree V6 should be included. See the notes I've added below from the Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson book and also here:
I'm sure there is more out there on both the 65 deg and 120 deg racing engines. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 11:30, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 65 degree V6 was first

I'm wondering what references were used to write the current version of this article, as according to my information, the 65 degree V6 engine was the first one produced. I'm using the following as a reference:

  • Ferrari The Sports and Gran Turismo Cars, by Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson, Fourth Edition, ISBN 0-85059-426-X

In Chapter 8 (p129), The Dino V-6 and the Rear-Engined Sports Cars, it states... it should be pointed out that there have been three distinct series of V-6 designs and one V-8 also called a Dino. The first of these, which started out life as a Formula 2 engine, was a 65° V-6 with double overhead camshafts.... It goes on to say, a 120° V-6 based on the same engine and also refered to as a Dino, was developed purely for Grand Prix use....

It then states, The second series V-6, initiated a year after the first, featured a single overhead camshaft design... and was a 60° Vee.

The book goes on to explain that the 65° V6 (with DOHC and dual ignition) was used by the factory race cars and only the 60° SOHC engine was sold in customer sports cars (like the Dino 196 S).

Then it describes The third and most recent series is the 65° V-6 designed by Ing. Rocchi of Ferrari for constuction by Fiat in series..... In this case, they are talking about engine in the Fiat Dino and the (Ferrari) Dino 206 GT, 246 GT and GTS.

The Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson book (Fourth Edition), was published in 1979, so naturally it has nothing to say about the 328, 348, 355, 360 or the 65° V12 engines that were built later.

But the current Ferrari Dino engine page, gives the impression that the 60° engines were built first and only after experience with that series of engines, did Ferrari build the 65° engine... when in fact, according to Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson, the 60° series of engines came later as an affordable customer sports car engine, and the Dino road cars, used a third series of V6 engine.

Unless someone has reliable references that state the 60° V6 engine came first, we should rewrite this page to reflect the information presented in the Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson book. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 08:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

One additional note from the Fitzgerald, Merritt and Thompson book - regarding the first V6 - they mention Ferrari designers beginning work in 1956, and by the end of the year, the first Dino V-6, named in memory of his son, was running. This would have been the 156 F2 engine, which first raced in an F2 car in 1957. --Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 11:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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