Talk:Fenian Brotherhood

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[edit] William O'Brien

Who was William Smith O'Brien and where was his attempted rising in 1848? Ireland? Rmhermen 15:38, May 20, 2004 (UTC)

The 1848 rising, which William Smith O'Brien led, was organised by the Young Ireland movement. It was in Ballingarry in Tipperary.El Gringo 02:20, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merger

This proposed merger is a bad idea. Fenian is a broad, general term, used both by Irish nationalists to describe themselves (at one point in time), as well as by their English and Unionist opponents as a term of insult. The Fenian Brotherhood, on the other hand, was a specific organization of Irish nationalists, dedicated to removing English power and influence over Ireland. One could argue that all members of the Fenian Brotherhood were Fenians, but one could not argue that all Fenians were members of the Fenian Brotherhood. ---Charles 03:41, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

This was my understanding too. Fenianism was/is a movement. At certain times that movement spawned certain organisations such as the Fenian Brotherhood and the Irish Republican Brotherhood, members of which were also referred to as Fenians. But the movement was more than the organisations that it spawned. Snottygobble 04:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I added the merge tag due to the bad link on James Stephens page 'was an Irish nationalist who founded the Fenian Movement" I have changed the link, and removed tag.Ghostieguide 07:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)