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Also, I reverted your addition of Shirley Chisholm to list of female United States presidential and vice-presidential candidates, since that list is only for candidates who were on the ballot in at least one state, either as the nominee of a party or as independents. According to Chisholm's article, she lost the nomination and didn't try an independent run. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 00:11, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Slot canyon articles

Hi, I appreciate the work you've been putting into the various slot-canyon related articles, but please do not write that "the length of time it took for xxx to form is unknown." First, because there are many references in the literature indicating the erosion that formed them occurred over millions of years, and second because an encyclopedia article almost never states what is "unknown." There are limitless things that are unknown, and if we were to list them all every article would be 99% unknowns. You wouldn't have an article that says, "The first person to discover Antelope Canyon is unknown. The heaviest rock ever washed through the canyon is unknown. The number of birds that have flown through the canyon is unknown." Etc. I've rewritten the statements referring to millions of years, and ask that if you want to change them you find a verifiable source indicating a different amount of time and discuss such changes on the talk pages first. Thank you. -- Moondigger 05:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for your comment. I will be happy to simply take out the claim that it took millions of years. The mere fact that someone claims in print that the erosion took millions of years doesn't make it so. In fact, there is a great deal of evidence to suggest that not only would the erosion happen quickly, but that millions of years would have been impossible. There has been recent research to show that the radiometric dating method is basically invalid, and it is the basis for all claims that something took millions of years. All the rest of it is speculation accepted as fact. It would probably be best if the claim is simply omitted. One can simply say they were carved out by the rushing waters of monsoons. Even if it were a documented fact that some erosions take millions of years, that information specifically about slot canyons probably doesn't exist. The number of millions is also not stated. For further information on the issue of erosion and the time it takes, please research the observations at Mount St. Helens, where a canyon 1/40 of the size of the Grand Canyon was carved out in a matter of days. This is, obviously, an erosion event. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it is probably best not to put unverified information into an article at all. Your analogies don't really compute with me simply because that's not something people would comment on to begin with, though I take your point. It isn't of interest to know who discovered Antelope Canyon (since it was a Native American, and as far as I know, they don't have a legend about it, and if they did, a notation on what the legend says would be entirely proper), or the heaviest rock that washed through the canyon, or the number of birds that have flown through.

When it comes to the information about how long it took to carve the slot canyons, we don't have anything to measure. Sandstone formations are dated according to other things in the rock, such as fossils. The fossils are usually dated depending on where they are found. This is a circular situation. While I cannot claim that there are no fossils in the slot canyons, I have never seen any. Without fossils and without other types of rocks, there is nothing to date.

I will do further research on this. Femcofounder 21:24, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Tim and Cindie Travis

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