Talk:Female homicides in Ciudad Juárez

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I want to dedicate this page to the 360 women and whoever other victim may be found in the future, the women of Juarez.

May your souls rest in peace with God in Heaven

Antonio Sad and Outraged Martin

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[edit] Merge suggestion

Looks like Juarez murders is attempting, with less success, to do what this page is doing. I suggest we merge it into here, or delete the other page entirely. Dkostic 05:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

support merge. Chris 01:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] long lists

Zaguiar, as a general practice, we don't include long lists of people and such in articles, such as those you have added. Such material is best referred to as external resources. Our first and foremost task to put together a solid, succint, and neutral overview of a given topic, although this can be a challenge with current events. -- Viajero | Talk 12:31, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Page moved

I moved this page. --ThomasK 08:21, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Graphic Picture

I removed the picture - if anyone wants to put it behind a warning of its graphic nature, that'd be more appropriate. 70.34.57.65 02:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

        Thanks - was just logging in to try to do that.  It's a trigger and needs a warning if there at all.Schauspiele 02:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Factually inaccurate

This article is famously inaccurate. There have *not* been hundreds of dead women found in the desert around Ciudad Juarez. This is what amounts to a journalistic urban legend, repeated by one journalist after another until it takes on the aura of truth.

Two numbers have been conflated here: (1) the number of women raped and murdered and left in the desert, and (2) the total number of women murdered in Ciudad Juarez and its surroundings during the same period of time, under any circumstances.

Ciudad Juarez is a huge city with a population in the millions. It is hardly surprising that 350 to 400 women have been murdered there in the last 10 to 15 years. But the vast majority of those murders have nothing to do with gangs of torture-rapists. They are everyday murders, and only a fraction of them are unsolved.

The actual number of dead women found in the desert is at least ten times smaller than the figure given.

Michael Snyder

Also, while not an inaccuracy, the article inappropriately states that the Mexican Federal government dropped the case. This is inflammatory and inaccurate in terms of the spirit of good reporting. The Mexican government never recommmended that investigations into the murders be abandoned. They merely said that since no federal laws were being violated, the onus of investigating the murders falls within the purview of local and state authorities (as stated in the sited article).

[edit] Linguistic Note

This is begging to be re-written. In the first paragraph it says: "...in the northern Mexican city of Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, a border city..." Ciudad means city. So this is how it reads: "in the northern Mexican city of city of Juárez, Chihuahua, a border city..." a little redundant, don't you think?

It should say: ... the violent death of hundreds of women in Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua, a Northern Mexico border city across the Rio Grande from the US city of El Paso, Texas. Most of the cases remain unsolved [1].

[edit] Help... adding info

I am writing a paper on International influence on this issue. Does anyone have more info about what organizations have reviewed this case? What years? Adding some of this to the page would be very useful, in maybe a reaction section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.71.242.37 (talk contribs) 19:33, 28 November 2006

[edit] Murder image

That was not vandalism. The warning was for the squeemish and someone {cough...foxsportsradio...cough) already uploaded the same image, yet I get a last warning alert. Dang, there needs to be consistensy, but I feel bias in this, because I, the Jewish woman, gets a last warning alert, while FoxSportsRadio, the Anglican man, just gets his image deleted. Dang, that just feels wrong. So, just to let you know, either it's vandalism both times, by a Jewish woman and an Anglican man, or it's not vandalism either way. Catherine Woods 02:49, 9 February 2007 (UTC)