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Contents 1 Archive Created 2 Criticism point 3 Copy-Edit 4 Criminal force 5 History 5.1 corruption and crimes comitted by the FBI 6 hiring process 7 moving unsigned misc. comment from the top of the page

[edit] Archive Created

Moved old-stuff to archive -- Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 07:20, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism point

Under the part about Robert Hanssen, the last part about the Promis system being acquired by bin Laden and helping him evade US authorities is ridiculously far-fetched, and the article used as a citation makes some assumptions that anyone with basic technical inclination would find absurb (though it could mislead people without a technical orientation). For example, it claims that the software may have been used to bin Laden to access FBI databases and view their progress in tracking him or his financial transactions. Besides the obvious problems in whether this software could've made its way from Russian intelligence to one of their most public enemies in Afghanistan, it doesn't even attempt to touch on the issue of authentication that would be needed along with the software to access any of the FBI's systems. If this truely needs to be in the FBI article, I think we should recategorize this entry into the Conspiracy Theories category as this point is more in tune with the Fake Moon Landing article than any objective view of US law enforcement.

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After many wars starting as an U.S. marine who ended up in the Air Force I have written many letters. We only need an army and not a world police.

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[edit] Copy-Edit

This article requires a copy edit for it to get through WP:FA. I can not do it since I am really biased and did a majority of the episode. Anyone willing to take on this task, I would give a cookie to ya! Thanks in advance! -- Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 16:27, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criminal force

To the people who keep adding:

It has the widest sphere of authority of all federal police services in the USA, it is the classical federal (criminal) police.

is very much untrue. Stop adding it. Thanks. Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 22:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

As a matter of fact, the FBI does not have the broadest investigative authority in the United States Government, nor does the U.S. Marshal's Service. Neither agency possess the authority to investigate Title 19 (Customs) issues nor full Title 8 (Immigration) and Title 31 (Bank Secrecy Act) issues. The FBI does not possess specific search authority nor stop authority beyond that of a local police force. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) most likely possess the broadest investigative authority in the U.S. government by expresly having the authority to investigate all criminal violations within the 50 Titles of U.S. Code as well as purposefully written broad stop and search authority (without warrant) anywhere within the United States (within certain guidelines and sometimes without probable cause). Another candidate agency that may possess the broadest investigatve authority withing the U.S Government might be the various military investigative agencies such as NCIS, AFOSI, or the Army CID. In addition to general federal criminal investigative powers, these agencies also possess the authority to enforce violations of the Uniformed Code of Military Justice (an authority that neither the FBI, ICE, or USMS possess).

[edit] History

If folks are trying to get this article to FA status, it needs way more references. The history section has none for the early part and it reads like it was written by the FBI itself. It doesn't reflect the historiography of the last 30 years, most of which has been extremely critical of the FBI. Particularly Theoharis, who is mentioned in further reading, as is Richard Gid Powers. A glaring omission is Communism, which was an obsession of J. Edgar Hoover throughout his life. I'll try and do some work on this when I get a chance, but I'm not sure when that'll be so I thought I should mention it here. cheers, Bobanny 22:56, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Spending more time on this article is on my to-do list (see WP:1FAPQ#First_quarter_2007). Right now, I'm busy with some other articles, including the Gun violence in the United States article. Thank you for your peer review critiques for that article. --Aude (talk) 23:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

I could be at the FBI Academy by the time you start. Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 03:28, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Great -- there's probably some good sources in their library! Otherwise, I promise to start before you graduate.Bobanny 06:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I doubt I could be considered fair then. Shane ^{(talk/contrib)} 07:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] corruption and crimes comitted by the FBI

This is a good article. i have just a suggestion(i don't know much about the fbi) but I think adding information about cases of corruption, (I'm sure such cases exist, no police force is free of corruption) would add to the credibilty of the article. Esmehwp 12:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] hiring process

In addition to the drug test, there is a polygraph test personnel have to pass, with questions ranging from drug use and how much a person has sold in their life.

In the quote above "and" should be replaced with "to", and the "how much a person has sold in their life" should be replaced with something that makes sense.—24.210.140.97 02:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

By all means, be bold. Bobanny 17:10, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] moving unsigned misc. comment from the top of the page

The preface "Bold text The FBI Protects us every day. This is my first admendment right. Do not delete." I suspect was not intended for: A. Citizens of the United States B. Was intended for the article itself.