Talk:February-March 2007 Tornado Outbreak

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[edit] Naming

I know it is not a good name, but I couldn't think of a better one... CrazyC83 21:01, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Probably we will have to give a mention on the blizzard in Iowa, Nebraska and Minnesota (Maybe named February-March 2007 Storm Complex) and also what will happen in eastern Canada and the northeast. Maybe, the two portions of the storm should be together.--JForget 22:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, but the tornadoes are the headliner in this case. There is precedent for such though. CrazyC83 22:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not as bad as down south, but at least 2 people have been killed in North Dakota and hundreds of miles of interstates are closed in Minnesota and Iowa. Not to mention that this storm will affect the Northeast. So February-March 2007 Storm Complex would be a better name. ---CWY2190TC 00:45, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I put the winter portion in a section about the storm's effects on both the north and south side of it called "The Storm" but the title can change. There were also unlisted reports of tornadoes near Birmingham in Pleasant Grove (heard on CNN) and possibly also near Adamsville (when I watched the coverage live on ABC 33/40 (on the web)--JForget 03:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Would this qualify as an outbreak sqequence, since the storm system is responsible for three seperate days of tornado reports? --Bigphishy56 22:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
No, as it was the movement of one system across a large area. CrazyC83 00:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] death toll number conflcits

I will not change the number now, but looks like we may have a info conflict here. I've just red an article, and there were reports that the toll was lowered to 7 including 5 from the High School roof collapse. See here [1]--JForget 03:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that is correct, and we should use the latest available information. Also the 5 dead in Wilcox County may be just 1. CrazyC83 03:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] School, fatalities - 1990 Plainfield Tornado

From This article

"It is the first killer tornado at a US school since 1989".[7][8]

From the Plainfield Tornado article

"By 3:30 P.M., the tornado had directly struck Plainfield High School, killing two people, including a science teacher preparing for classes the next day."

I think that the source has forgot that the Plainfield Tornado killed 2 during the F5 in 1990, although after school and not students, but this should be included anyways as schools fatalities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JForget (talk • contribs) 03:42, 2 March 2007 (UTC).--JForget 03:43, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tornado Ratings

Please do not post tornado ratings unless they have been confirmed by NWS offices. If you wish to add a rating, provide a source. --Bigphishy56 21:58, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Impressive Outbreak so far. Three confirmed EF3 ratings and possibly more as the surveys from southern Alabama are concluded. --Bigphishy56 22:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Sources are always at the bottom of charts involved. As for the three EF3's, that is sure to rise, as some with houses "flattened" and "destroyed" are still to come, plus of course the Enterprise tornado, which was surely at least EF3. Also the Linn County, KS tornado is still under investigation and might have been a violent one... CrazyC83 23:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
NWS KS City/Pleasant Hill has some photos of homes swept clean from their foundations in Linn county. If these were well anchored homes, this tornado could very well recieve an EF4 or EF5 rating. I also think that if the tornado does recieve an EF4+ rating, there should be an added section about it, and pictures posted of flattened homes from NWS --Bigphishy56 17:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I disagree about the added section. Neither of the F4 tornadoes last year got separate sections since they did only isolated (but catastrophic) damage. The damage would be based on one house. Added sections are for cases when a tornado (and its related thunderstorm impacts) or closely related tornadoes - by themselves - would warrant an article (like Enterprise), or if there is a gold mine of stuff to write about. As for the pictures, we definitely need some on here...the Enterprise tornado itself should be the infobox picture though, and the damage pictures in a separate section at the bottom. See here for an example. CrazyC83 18:24, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
You have a good point. Since this tornado remained in mostly rural areas and did not cause much damage, there is no need for a seperate article. I agree with your stance. --Bigphishy56 19:51, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
I heard from an unoffical source that the house that was swept away was well constructed. It sounds likely that this tornado will be rated EF4 or EF5. --Bigphishy56 01:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Americus tornado and related tornadoes

I'm trying to decide if I should go in depth on those ones (like with Enterprise) and create a separate section. Normally I keep such for cases when a single tornado itself warrants an article (Enterprise alone would have an article even if nothing else happened), and in this case there is a fair bit of information I have found. Thoughts? CrazyC83 02:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

This tornado cut a 38 mile path, which looks to be the longest thus far of the outbreak. It was also a mile wide at points. I would go for it (I don't see how it could detract from the article) --Bigphishy56 17:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source NWS Tallahassee

The NWS Tallahassee source lits alot more tornadoes then are listed on the article. Why aren't all of the tornadoes listed? I know its alot of tornadoes but I believe all of them should be listed.--Mjrmtg 13:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Added all their tornadoes, but only two of them have been confirmed and rated. CrazyC83 15:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox Image

The image in the box has been removed as a copyright violation (received via OTRS). Any photos on the NWS site also on http://www.tornadohead.com/022807chase.htm are not free.--Nilfanion (talk) 00:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know about the other site. I just assumed it was an NWS photo. One of the EF3 tornadoes should get the infobox photo then (Enterprise preferably) if one can be found. I made that one originally being the strongest. CrazyC83 02:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] March 2nd

I could be wrong, but I believe the 3 tornadoes added today in Lake Park, GA, Cherry Lake, FL and Monticello FL occurred on the morning of March 2nd, not March 1st. --Mjrmtg 15:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes that is correct (actually the overnight hours), however, due to the fact there was no real break in the activity until then - and it ended after that - I just put them together with a note at the top. CrazyC83 23:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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