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[edit] Chicago Bears seasons

This list is a well archived record of all the professional seasons played by the Chicago Bears in their history. The list is detailed in giving the win-loss-tie record for each year including their playoff result for that year. I believe its a featured list. --Happyman22 18:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Support as per nomination --Happyman22 18:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comments Support:
    • The first sentence in the second paraghraph is way too long, split it to at least 2 more sentences and try to remove unnecessary commas.
    • Add a "work" field to the references with the website name.
    • Add the fact that they also hold the record for the most regular-season victories for a NFL franchise to the lead.
    • Remove the 6th and 7th notes as it should be mentioned in the lead rather than in the notes.
    • Should "standing" be capitalized? Also misses period at the end of the sentence.
    • Why is the linking to the seasons different in the 2005 and 2006 seasons? Just because an article is missing it doesn't mean it shouldn't be linked. Either change it or the rest of the table. Michaelas10 (Talk) 21:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Corrections:
    • Added the franchise victories to the lead and removed the 6th and 7th notes from the note section.
    • Uncapitalized the word "standing" and added a period at the end of the sentence.
    • Broke up the sentence in the second paragraph into more sentences.
    • Removed the linkages on the 2005 and 2006 seasons so they could reflect the other seasons in the list.

--Happyman22 00:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Comments: what is a "work" field? Do you mean like a works cited reference? --Happyman22 00:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
    • By work field I meant a "work =" in the references, which is either the name of the website or its address (wikipedia.org for instance). Michaelas10 (Talk) 16:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Corrections:
    • I added a "work =" field as asked.

--Happyman22 17:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Support, list is well written, organized, and informative --ShadowJester07 19:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. Mind moving the team season column to right of the team season column? I've also given the lead some copyediting if you don't mind. Michaelas10 (Talk) 20:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
    • I didnt understand your last comment..it seemed to repeat itself. --Happyman22 21:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
      • Nevermind, I misread it, I understand what you meant and I am doing that now. --Happyman22 00:15, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose, per WP:WIAFL 1a - "A useful list must be composed of a large majority of links to existing articles (blue links)." As this is a list of Chicago Bear seasons, the majority of the links to individual Bear seasons (in the column marked "Team") must be blue. However, only five out of 80+ are blue - the rest are redlinks. Even if you include the links in the first column, it's still barely more than half - which is not the large majority required. :-(
    It's a shame, as this is a nicely formatted list, and certainly fulfills the rest of the requirements. Tompw (talk) 20:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Comments, What if I were to remove all of the inactive links for the time being so all the red links are gone and then start adding them again when each of the individual season page is created? If I do that can I squeak by that set of requirements? --Happyman22 04:25, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
      • The trouble is that list wouldn't really be "bringing together a group of related articles" (1a again)... could you at least create stub articles for the red-linked Bear seasons? (The information in the list would make a good starting point for a stub). I ended doing somtihng similar for List of Nova Scotia general elections to get that passed as FL. This nomination still has a week to run, so time is on your side. As I said, once this gets sorted, the list will have my full support. Tompw (talk) 12:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
        • Support now the above has been resolved. Well done for your work on this :-) Tompw (talk) 12:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support. The list looks very good. Only problem ma be the redlinks in years, but not much yo can do abotu it. Unlink them for now and rlink them when the articles are made at a later date I'd say.
  • Update I have removed most of the red links on the team season list as of now, but i have added the 1920-1932 season which are just stubs right now. At the time of this writting I am about to start creating the 1993-2003 team seasons...I would like to anyone who reads this and has time if they could try to help out by making an of the other team seasons. --Happyman22 19:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support it looks like you are making a good effort to make all the red links blue, it looks good enough for me. Some other things that bear mentioning though, that you may or may not want to change, is that there are several repeated wikilinks on the page. For instance, Opponents faced in playoffs are wikilinked multiple times. Repeated wikilinks aren't necessary unless they are in a new section, and I'm not sure you could call each season a different section in this case, hence repeating the wikilinks would be against the manual of style. Also, I'm a bit confused about the 1942 season. It says their record was 11-0-0 and yet they lost the NFL championship game? How is that possible? Either their record is wrong, or postseason records are not counted on the win/loss record for that season. If that is the case there should be something noting this. VegaDark 09:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Improvements I have unwikilinked the articles that go to the same page, and I have added a disclaimer to the top so the list and the wins/loss records become more clear. --Happyman22 16:21, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. I had to puzzle a bit over the color coding of the "finish" column. I'm still not sure I really understand it. The repetition of year in the first two columns seemed odd. Perhaps the league season link could be replaced by a word? In the lead, if something "should be noted" it can usually just be stated without that introductory phrase. Compare:
    • It should be also noted that the postseason records are added to the regular season records...
    • Postseason records are added to the regular season records...
    • Gimmetrow 01:26, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
      • I've attempted to copy edit the lead. Gimmetrow 15:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Support. Looks liek a great list. My only problem would be with all the redlinks under years, but that could be fixed. --Wizardman 17:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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