Wikipedia:Featured article removal candidates/Newark, New Jersey

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[edit] Newark, New Jersey

Article is no longer a featured article

This article has been featured for a long time, and I resisted listing it in the hopes that it would be improved, but sadly it has not been. It is basically one giant history section with almost nothing else. It hardly conforms to the standards set by other city featured articles for content. Páll (Die pienk olifant) 08:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Remove. Due emphasis between sections and sub-sections is off. Too many one sentence paragraphs have crept in. Pictures are poorly spaced and reduce readability. Marskell 10:19, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Remove. Close, but not good enough for the mentioned reasons. And lead is inadequate as well.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 04:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. I don't know how this article became featured. There are no records of the article's having gone through FAC. Pentawing 05:55, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
    • I went in and cleaned up the article as much as I could. However, the fact that there is still no record of the article's going through FAC concerns me. Can anyone enlighten me on that? Pentawing 07:15, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Truly odd. It was tagged Feature in March, 2004 by User:Maveric149 who is still active. The log for that month and the two previous show no record of it however. I will contact him. Marskell 13:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
      • Scratch that. It was User:Dinopup. Maveric simply formatted it. I will contact the former as well as Raul I suppose. Marskell 13:50, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
        • Some articles just featured when there was no FAC system. Lots of articles have no record. See, some of them were considered good articles at the time so it became featured on a list with others. I believe if anyone objected to those then the article would not be featured. The rules weren't so strict then. 12.220.47.145 01:43, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Please Wait. It has been a while since I pruned this article, but I still think that Newark compares favorably with other City FAs. If there is no record of voting on Newark, that is because it was made an FA before we had that voting process. I did not self-nominate Newark to be an FA or unilaterally add Newark to the FA list (I would not even know how to do that).

I will expand the sections on Newark's neighborhoods and culture, though you cannot expect me to say as much about Newark's sports life and economy as is said about the sports life and economy of larger cities.

I just found out about Newark being an FARC and will work on the article immediately.Dinopup 19:34, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

  • I just did a lot of expansion and editing It's now thirty minutes later and I've addressed a few concerns that you had. I've expanded the geography and neighorhoods sections and removed disharmonious language and paragraphing.Dinopup 20:14, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Looks like a good cleanup effort has taken place, and while the lead could use another few lines to make it two paragraphs, this is now acceptable in my eyes. Harro5 09:28, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Remove. Yikes, the article lacks any basic balance in coverage. It should be in Wikipedia:Summary style, covering each topic in relation to their importance. As such, the history needs to be massively shortened, and other sections need expansion. Teh one sentence sections in the neighborhoods should just be made into a couple good prose paragraphs. As it is they are very choppy. Sorry, but I don't think it's all that close to the quality of some of the recently promoted city articles. If you are able to fix some of this, let me know, I'll reconsider my vote, but if you can't do it in time, see if you can't fix the article up anyway and renominate it for FAC under the new higher standards. - Taxman Talk 23:40, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
  • NeighborhoodsI realize that the neighborhood section is short, but there are actually excellent articles written on almost all the major neighborhoods. See Ironbound, Forest Hill, Newark, New Jersey, Seventh Avenue, Newark, New Jersey, Broadway, Newark, New Jersey, Roseville, Newark, New Jersey. These neighborhoods are all in the article's sublist, if you just had followed the link you would have discovered this top notch content. The Newark neighborhood articles are better than most neighborhood articles you'll find on wiki and are better than what teh City of Newark has written. Dinopup 00:43, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
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