Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Windows Vista/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 19:42, 20 January 2007.

[edit] Windows Vista

With Windows Vista soon to be released on January 30th, it should be featured. The article is well-documented and frequently updated with new material, keeping it up-to-date and current. It is also filled with excellent descriptive pictures. I beleive that it should be made a Featured article of Wikipedia. Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 11:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Dec 2006 FAC SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

• Object. It's a decent article, but the frequent updating is something that runs against it being a FA, instead of being an asset. See WP:WIAFA, section 1e. Also, the prospect of World+Dog adding their personal experiences to the article from January 30 on (or whenever the thing will be released), doesn't bode too well. --Plek 11:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Object It hasn't been released to the public? That's the reason it failed FAC last time and will do so again, wait a long time no re-nominate it, as it will fail the featured article criteria 1.e. Aside from that some references are not consistent with the others and are just URls, where it should provide details like publisher, date retrieved, title etc. This Categories: Articles with unsourced statements, an unsourced statement in there somewhere. The images under 'Visual styles' make the whole article have a horizontal scroll, please make them smaller. Article is too listy throughout. I suggest another Peer review. M3tal H3ad 11:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply: Thats why it would be ideal as a FA on its release date, January 30th 2006. --Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 20:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

It would be great to have it of a very high quality, but surely you must agree that it won't be stable at that point - the release itself will need to be covered, plus any new information it brings to light. And if it's not stable, it won't pass 1e of WP:WIAFA. Trebor 21:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Regarding the use of lists. Windows 2000 is a FA and it has a lot of lists. Do lists break up the flow of an article and are they less than ideal? Of course. However with a subject as technical as an operating system, they do help explain things more clearly than we could with prose. Having said that, I still wouldn't vote for FA status. Not only will the release provoke content disputes, the article is also likely to suffer vandalism unfortunately. Mark83 17:55, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Comment Yes it does break up the flow, editors prefer prose rather then lists. I took a look and Windows 2000 was selected as an FA roughly 19 moths ago, the criteria has changed since then. In response to Extranet, when its released you will need to add sales, profit, response, reviews, viruses, Microsoft's response to releasing patches and a lot more info and it wont be stable. M3tal H3ad 03:41, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Reply: I do understand that it will be a point of vandalism for some vandals, but I would suggest an Administrator Semi-Protect the article before it is released. If it is not accepted for FA, someone could probably re-nominate it later on in the year once all the new information is posted on the article. --Extranet ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 03:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose. It's not so much a reflection on the article, although the comments above are good suggestions, but an article on something that will soon undergo a high-profile release will not be stable for a long while. It means we should strive to make it the best and most accurate article possible, but that making it featured wouldn't be right. Even if it was judged to be featured quality at the moment, keeping it at featured quality would be almost impossible. Trebor 13:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
• Object, as it fails WP:WIAFA §1.e, like the last time. Titoxd^(?!?) 04:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
• Object again I don't quite see the point of renominating the article for FA. Last time around it was argued, correctly so in my mind, that there was little point in promoting the article to FA status while it's clear that the article will have to incorporate a lot of new content after Windows Vista's release later this month. The article cannot be expected to remain stable in the short term. Pascal.Tesson 16:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
• Object; I wrote the majority of the prose in this article... much as I'd like to see it be a Featured Article, it's just not stable enough. Maybe in another five months or so once things have settled down a bit. -/- Warren 17:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
• Support; It details a lot about the OS. - Patricknoddy 5:37pm, January 14, 2007
• Object because it deals with a current event (not suitable for any FA at all). Try again later this year. --Slgrandson (page - messages - contribs) 10:00, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose the article details a current event, not suitable for a FA. ← ANAS ^Talk? 15:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• OBJECT for all the reasons above, incluidng...if we make this a featured article (before the product comes out)...wouldn't this violate Wikipedia's policies on advertising and promotion...and why aren't we getting a cut if it isn't? —ExplorerCDT 20:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose because the article details a current events that might change which is not suitable for a FA. --Emx 11:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.