Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Brothers Karamazov
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[edit] The Brothers Karamazov
This is a self nomination. I think there is an absence on wikipedia of featured articles regarding classic novels and so I am hoping this article can contribute in some way. It has been peer reviewed for about a month now and I have addressed most of the concerns raised there. So I look forward to input. Thanks Jonesboy1983 00:15, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support: Support: A lot of work has gone into this, I particularly like the brief but comprehensive summaries in the synopsis. The page covers a vast work in an encyclopedic and concise fashion. Giano | talk 09:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Comment. Overall it's a great article and is not just the boring crap usually found in an article on a classic text... but at the same time I think some of it should be NPOV-erised. For example, the "it has been acclaimed all over the world as a masterpiece of literature and one of the greatest novels ever written" comment needs some sort of reference directly after it (even if its just a link to the "The novel's influence" section), because when it's just that comment on its own it screams POV. Also, this image needs to be cleaned up and trimmed.
plattopustalk 12:50, May 25, 2005 (UTC) - Comment: Unfortunately, as I have not read the book, I will not be reading the entire article so as not to learn the plot, and as a result, I will not be able to support. However, I noticed a couple things that might be improved. The lead looks short—it could be expanded to include more about the origin of the book and the influence of the novel. Don't add too much about the plot of the book, as people like me still want to read the book without being told the ending :). Also, why the project gutenburg link to "The Grand Inquisitor" [1]? That e-text weighs in at a mere 69k, so it can't possibly be the same thing—I think that Brothers Karamazov is on the same level as War and Peace in total length (i.e. megabytes). That's what I see right now; sorry I can't be more helpful. I need to get started on reading that book... --Spangineer ∞ 12:58, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
- The Grand Inquisitor is but one chapter of the novel. It is probably linked because it is also arguably the most famous one. Phils 14:27, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: This is one of those books I read decades ago in college. I seem to remember that Grubshenka's name has a relevant meaning in German; & the image of the Troika in in the closing remarks of the Trial still remains with me -- but the passage about the "Grand Inquisitor" is often studied apart from the rest of the novel. Other than this, I think the best improvement would be to provide the names of the critics (& their citations) who prefer the Pevear and Volokhonksky translation to the Garnett one; that way you are reporting opinions, not stating them. -- llywrch 02:26, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support this much-improved article. Filiocht | Blarneyman 07:25, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Support I remember wanting to look somehting up about this book about six months ago for a philosophy essay. The page then was poor - little info, no synposis, nothing about the characters. Now it is truly an encyclopaedic page. Also, it is shorter than (I think) the average FA, and that is a good thing. A mix of lengths, topics and styles is good. Whoever did the work on this page, it has my vote. Batmanand 08:02, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comments...I fixed the image that had issues and added a couple sources for the lines that were bringing up NPOV concerns. Jonesboy1983 00:52, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support Article looks great! Good luck with it--Hypo 08:12, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support I loved this book and very much enjoyed reading the article. --Laura Scudder | Talk 23:44, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support Fascinating and incisive description. --Theo (Talk) 12:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
