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[edit] Póvoa de Varzim

This article is about my home town and has been peer reviewed (thanks User:Yomangani), as I'm not a native English speaker, it is already a featured article in Portuguese language wikipedia, and it is expected to be so in the Spanish. It is not one of those huge cities, but it has its own personality and regional "importance", and will be a different article in the FA list. People, from the city and beyond also liked it, and even the City hall has used information from the WK:PT article. I was not to put it as a candidate for FA, but... I liked the peer review. It gave me a lot of work, so be nice judging it. Remember you can edit it ;)--Pedro 20:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

• Weak Object- citations not numbered correctly, and pictures are too large. Everything else looks all right though. QuizQuick 21:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
  • citations are correct, that's a wikipedia script, not an issue of the article, you see the same citations being used more than once, as these are citations to books, not websites. As for the pics, I think these are ok, but if you ppl think it is too large I don't mind reducing them. hugs. images reduced from 250 -> 220px and 200->165px. the saame for other images with different sizes. --Pedro 22:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support. `'mikka (t) 23:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object. This needs severe copy-editing. And why are the simple years and centuries in blue? Even the autoformatted dates aren't all done correctly. Tony 03:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • It has already been done. If you find an error, the best is to edit. The issue over the dates, that's a common practice in wikipedia. If you want to see the article without "blue things" click on "Printable Version". --Pedro 09:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

No, I'd like to see the proper links. What I don't want to see is a whole lot of useless links, like "20th century" (Gee, that leads to valuable information related to this topic) and dictionary words. Why dilute the high-value links with these? Tony 09:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC) And BTW, reviewers here are under no obligation to edit. It's your job to find collaborators; if you're not willing to do that, withdraw it now. Tony 09:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• you should read "Supporting and objecting", and reviewers should also read the article instead of objecting because of links to dates that every article has.--Pedro 10:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object Image:Autoestradas Póvoa de Varzim.jpg and Image:Siglaspoveirasbase.png should be converted to SVG. It would be nice if Image:Mapa da Póvoa de Varzim.png and Image:Freguesiaspvz.png are in SVG too. Good to see that Image:LocalPovoaDeVarzim.svg is in SVG. WP 11:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Object This article needs copy editing, not only for language but for technical details. For instance, ref marks should be placed after punctuation with no space between the punctuation and the ref mark. Gimmetrow 16:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This article is 64kb long, but is concurrently listed as a GA candidate. A lot of the phrasing reads as translation. Very long articles should have near-perfect prose or they are difficult to read all at once. Gimmetrow 17:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • done: refs placed after punctuation with no space. thx, I was not aware of that rule.--Pedro 19:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Still quite a few not matching WP:FN. Extra spaces here and there, at least one extra period after a footnote, and at least one note before a period. Hint: search for ". [", "]." and "] [" ok? A few other easy-to-fix details that jump out:

• History: arrows to list evolution of word Euracini: is this common style? "...many aristocrats" or just "aristocrats"?
• Sports: why is "Long." given after a lat/lon cite? Should "Marina" be capitalized?
• Culture/traditions: Personal pref, but I tend to dislike parentheticals at the end of sentences (as in Brittany and Denmark). Same thing in History (most notably in garum).
• Writing system: "Coat of Arms" capitalized or not? "The siglas" or just "Siglas"? Is "Siglas" capitalized when not the first word of a sentence?
• Festivals: Is there a way to avoid saying "These days"? "They still believe that this saint..." shorten or combine with previous sentence? Why is understood in single quotes?
• Famous Poveiros: spacing for date after Saint Peter

General points: be consistent with capitalizations, reduce uses of "many". Gimmetrow 19:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

My point about "many" is to generally avoid weasel terms such as "some", "many", "most", or the similar word "also". This doesn't mean completely eliminate them, but the process of rewriting required will make the text more crisp. Gimmetrow 20:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• • Thanks for your input, all your ideas where used in the article. The article has improved. More ideas are welcome. Feel free to edit it. ;) --Pedro 21:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Support. There are some flaws, but overall it's an alrihgt article. Hezzy 18:37, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't usually comment on other reviewers' comments, but: if there are flaws, and you think the article is only "alrihgt" (sic), why do you think it should be promoted to FA status? Tony 02:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Object Clearly fails 2a. A couple of simple fixes: remove contractions, and changing also to furthermore looks even worse. Just delete it. If the content is so different that it feels as though you need to say "also", it's likely there's not sufficient context for the statement. Choose links more wisely (don't link dates, do link subjects of the topic sentence of a paragraph). Please have this thoroughly copyedited by a native speaker-- MarkBuckles 03:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I've removed links to dates.--Pedro 20:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)