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[edit] Noel Gallagher

I now believe all previous complaints to have been satisfied, and feel the article is sufficiently comprehensive and well-written. If, by some iverlooked failing, POV is still a concern, please - rather than complain here - simply tone down what you believe to be offending.

If you want sound clips, the same applies - they are available here and on several of the relevant album pages. I do not knowe how to add them so if you want them ,could you please do it yourself or advise me as to what is needed and where.

Ta very much--Crestville 00:24, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment—I hope the rest of it is better than the first two sentences: "Noel Thomas David Gallagher (born 29 May 1967) is the lead songwriter, guitarist and sometime lead-singer with the English rock band Oasis. He is the older brother of Oasis front man Liam Gallagher and the two are often pigeon-holed as squabbling siblings."
    • "Lead songwriter isn't hyphenated, but "lead-singer" is?
    • Perhaps "elder" rather than "older", but the latter is acceptable.
    • "Front man" should be one word.
    • The two ideas in the second sentence are not closely enough related to be jammed together with an "and". Good example for my tutorial article on this.

Can you get someone to audit the whole text, please? Tony 04:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment adressesd, though in England I'm pretty sure we use older as opposed to elder.--Crestville 09:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Crestville, just a note: it's best to wait for other editors to strike comments themselves. Tony's comments typically provide examples only. Sandy 17:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Soory, I get imaptient with stuff like that. Tony, feel free to unstrike them.--Crestville 20:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I think it's a great article. I do have a coupla small things to bitch about, though:
    • Bit of a gripe about the Controversy section. To me, there's a definite ring of "Oh my God, and then he said he'd shoot Robbie Williams' dog, zomg" about it. I accept that it's hard to maintain complete neutrality when you're talking about NOEL GALLAGHER. Still...
    • Have found that it's dangerous to provide links to YouTube here — user accounts are transient, and videos are frequently deleted.
    • Ugh, what's with the wikilinking to things like "car" and "radio" in the early years section?
    • Need to do some en-dashing, too many hyphens, and some minor punctuation stuff.

I can take care of my last two complaints... but the first two would require someone who actually knows something about the man. Maybe *cough* you *cough* — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 16:36, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Also wondering about the part where it is implied that Johnny Depp is one of Gallagher's idols. — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 16:39, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... one more tiny thing... the article keeps stating "lead singer with", as opposed to "lead singer of", which I feel is probably more common. Any thoughts? — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 16:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh man, I'm disorganised, but my final comment: the references dry up towards the end of the article, and they don't stick to a uniform format. — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 17:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Right, ta very much, I'll look into these, though the youtube links are not essential. That the information was included in, say, Behind the Music is the relevant factor, the clip is just a novelty really.
Also, I'm not too sure what you're saying about the controversy section. How do you feel the tone should be so as to improve it?--Crestville 20:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I was thinking... less of a sort of list of what he did and when he did it? But I can't think there's any other way you can go about it. Perhaps leave that hanging until other people apart from myself say something about it... it might be just my opinion. Also, one more silly complaint – I think all the dates need to be in the same (British) format. OK, I'll come back in a couple of hours and try to do something about the little things, but don't sweat too much about the controversy section, I guess. — riana_dzasta • t • c • e • 23:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - well written article, but could definitely be better. The writing is a little too choppy for my liking. For instance, there are far too many "also"s in the body. I think it needs a copyedit. - Ta bu shi da yu 23:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Object. Way too many unreferenced and poorly referenced comments, especially derogotory ones. Youtube is not good to reference to because copyright-violating clips (like many used for this article) often disappear. The editor formerly known as Harmonica Wolfowitz 21:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Object: "Relationship with Liam Gallagher" needs citations. Several of them at least, and high-quality ones (preferably newspapers and books). "Changing band dynamic" needs more citations as well, especially that argument. Citations should immediately follow punctuation,[1] with no spaces.[2] "At some point in the early 1980s (sources vary)" but no sources are mentioned. --Spangineeres (háblame) 18:42, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
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