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[edit] Max Weber

Partial self-nom. I have worked on Weber's article since I arrived on Wiki this April, incorporated advice from 2 peer review rounds and I think that it is ready for a nomination. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:39, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • Object. Two of the three suggestions I made on peer review have not been resolved: multiple one and two sentence paragraphs throughout, and the use of the term economy is confusing. It is used and linked to (through the word economist) in the intro and linked to later. This page is a disambiguation. What sense of the word is being used here? There is no field that is currently referred to only as economy. At least not in any usage I am aware of. - Taxman 19:52, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • Fixed economy (to economics). As far as remaining 1/2 sentence paragrahs, I did what I could, feel free to work on the few that are left, but personally I really don't find anything bad with them. Note that recent FA Linus Pauling has several of such short paragraphs as well. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 22:50, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Besides the fact that it violates basic guidelines of good prose style in an obvious way, it also often highlights ideas that need expanding in order to be useful. For ex: "Weber analysed the interaction between the Bedouins, the cities, the herdsmen and the peasants. The conflicts between them and the rise and fall of United Monarchy." Is not a complete idea. What did he find?, etc. I fixed as many as I could, but the discussion of the stratification issue in the economics section is not well structured as a whole. I think it would be better served by a well written paragraph, than two sentences split by a list. The rest of the one or two sentence paragraphs just need expanding. - Taxman 23:38, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • A very promising article on an extremely important subject. The author has done great work, but I can't support yet, as there are big formatting and style issues. I agree with Taxman about expansion, noticing at the same time that the article is at this moment 33 kb, one kb over the recommended article maximum. I have copyedited and formatted a ways down, especially the captions, and will be back for more, but am not knowledgeable enough to do any expansion or informed critique. Piotrus, one detail: I assume you know which child is Max in the photo, since you uploaded it yourself, please put that info into the caption. (From the text, I can only tell he's not the youngest.)--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (Talk)]] 21:05, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC).
The picture is from the gallery (external links in the article, assumed public domain) - since they don't tell which one was Max, I have no idea as well :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:46, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
P.S. Having gone through another few sections to copyedit, I have to say, unfortunately, that the choice of words to wikilink is very lacking in reader usefulness. I hesitate to mess with it myself, but it needs a bigtime overhaul by someone who a) knows about Weber and b) has read some policy pages about the principles of linking.--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (Talk)]] 23:01, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Could you elaborate on problems with wikilinks? I would try to fix them if I knew what was wrong, exactly. I did add majority of them myself and I tried to make them relevant to his work in sociology. Tnx for input and help, everybody. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:46, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I've put a wikilink discussion with examples on Talk:Max Weber.--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen (Talk)]] 15:29, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Wow. I just read the article for the first time after the rewrite. Support. 172 07:30, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Strongly Support: This is a fascinating and very interesting article about one of Germany's Greats. Probably one of the most comprehensive studies on the internet. Superbly illustrated and a complete credit to Piotrus Giano 10:43, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Much tnx, but I cannot take all the credit. Many other people helped and are helping with this project (after all, this is Wiki) - just look at the history. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 12:22, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Support with contingency: A quick dusting for verb tenses is necessary. There are unsettling shifts from past to present that need to be made consistent. Excellent work, and one of the really difficult jobs (like the Restoration comedy) of doing the impossible: being concise on a subject so monumental and gnarled as to escape most. Writing about figures such as Max Weber in an online encyclopedia is like trying to shove the horizon into a pint glass. Congratulations to the principal editors for saving it from the dual dangers of partisan cheerleaders and academic fussiness. Geogre 17:04, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Neutral. Sorry I can't undertake to remove your contingency, Geogre, the reaction to my initial dusting and comments has been a bit disappointing. I don't want to trip up the article by objections, but can only vote neutral at this point.--[[User:Bishonen|Bishonen ( talk)]] 20:36, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Support. Could use a bit more work before being on the main page.GeneralPatton 17:04, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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