Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Krazy Kat

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[edit] Krazy Kat

Peer review: Wikipedia:Peer review/Krazy Kat

Self-nomination. I've spent a lot of time bringing this article up to quality in the past week. The peer review has attracted two comments, both positive; someone else put it on Wikipedia:Good articles a couple days ago, and another user left a positive comment on the talk page. The article is well-sourced (using the new Cite.php feature for footnotes), well-written, and uses several free images (along with properly tagged fair-use image where free ones were not available). Andrew Levine 21:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

• Nominate and Support. Andrew Levine 21:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support with enthusiasm. Rick Norwood 00:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support. It's a great article. My only note might be smallifying those images a little, as they break up some of the paragraphs, even with my big resolution. Staxringold 00:04, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • The two widest images have just been downsized from 350 to 300 pixels in width. Andrew Levine 05:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support with some sugggestions re image placement: Intro image should go completely to top of article so the right margin of the intro graphs are consistent; also why are the two images in "Characters" on the same side when all the other images alternate as they should from left to right? Daniel Case 04:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I just switched all of them to right-aligned, which I think is less disorienting, and also avoids the problem of having a section header sitting directly atop an image (I think having text directly under the header looks better). Andrew Levine 05:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support. Great article about a fantastic strip. I have a couple requests; since I don't have my Fantagraphics books with me, I can't add anything myself and keep everything properly cited. I think the article should mention Herriman's disinclination for multi-strip stories—somewhere in one of his introductions, Mr. Bum Bill B. tells how Hearst suggested that Herriman should start doing stories which continued over several strips, a popular practice in other comics. Herriman produced a story about the most powerful ketnip ever to grace Coconino County, not exactly what Hearst had in mind. Also, I recall several jokes about Prohibition, with both Ignatz and Joe Stork getting into the bootlegging business. Finally, I'd love to see a paragraph on the 1911 "Krazy Kat Rag" (and if somebody with a piano could make an ogg of it, that would be cool too). Anville 08:33, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your support, Aniville. I don't have much time to do more heavy improvements right now, but in the next few days I will dive back into the Fantagraphics books and give your suggestions a try. Andrew Levine 08:43, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support - well written, references and illustrations are excellent. I think the images look a bit uniform/ordered being all right-aligned but it looks better than it did before, and I can't think of another way of assembling them that would work. I'm impressed that the article covers such a wide scope of information in such an intelligent and concise manner. Rossrs 14:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support Although I've never heard of this, it does meet the criteria to be a featured article. Captain Jackson 16:22, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Of kourse I suppoit this "article" about one of my favourite "kartoon kats". JIP | Talk 20:57, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support Good one. Mstroeck 21:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support. I especially enjoyed the solid discussion of Krazy Kat's lasting influence in the comics world. Great article!
  • (The above unsigned vote was added by KrazyCaley on January 19 at 18:27.) Andrew Levine 01:49, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
• Minor object. Support. I made a few minor changes here and there, mainly wikifying full dates (I hate date links, but it's the only way to let them format correctly based on user preferences), changing general descriptions of the strip and plots to literary present tense (the strip doesn't change if you read it today), and removing some passive voice. There are a couple of places where a source citation is needed (when someone's opinion is being paraphrased or someone is being quoted); I've added edit-mode-only comments to indicate where. I'd also like to see the web references listed under "References" as well as "Notes"; there's no reason to treat them differently. Once these are addressed, I have no problem changing to support. — BrianSmithson 18:45, 19 January 2006 (UTC) Changing to support. Still think the web references should be treated as regular references, but not a big deal. Good job to all involved. — BrianSmithson 18:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Well, now it's a full objection. Rick Norwood is systematically undoing the copy edits I made, which, among other things, reverts us to improper use of past tense to describe plot elements in a literary work. Sorry. — BrianSmithson 19:51, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
    • The source for the "Herriman was fond of experimenting..." quote was the same Krazy Kat: The Comic Art of George Herriman book cited throughout. The "purveyor of progeny" quote is simply how Joe Stork is referred to almost every time he appears in the strip. I'll add both citations when I get a chance this weekend. As for the use of the literary present, everything that takes place within the world of the comic does indeed use that tense, but anything Herriman (or anyone else) did in his lifetime needs to use the past tense. Andrew Levine 21:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support Wonderful article.--Alabamaboy 19:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Support, well done! :) - Mailer Diablo 04:07, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
• Ignazz, I am truly korrupted by yore sinful articall. Absolutely. Ideally, there would be articles for those redlinks in the later sections, but why hold this article to account for other article's failings? --maru (talk) Contribs 05:53, 23 January 2006 (UTC)