Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hero of Belarus/Attempt 1

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[edit] Hero of Belarus

Self-nom. I believe the article should be FA for various reasons. Though there has only been five people who have been decorated with the title, their heroism and service to their country serves as an example of the people who make Belarus a great country. Though I do agree this award is no where near recognized as the Hero of the Soviet Union thoughout our culture, an amazing article with great photos and drawings (from me) is a shining example of what can be done with a stub, Babelfish and those who are knowledge of the local language. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Support, I think it's quite good. It's also good that we have such a quality and neutral article on a topic associated with a country that is often unfairly maligned in the West. Everyking 04:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks. I do agree that we, the United States, bash Belarus because of voting issues, human rights abuses and also due to President Lukashenko's rule. We have even accused Belarus of providing passports and refuge to Saddam Hussein and his deceaed sons, though we have found them elsewhere (BTW, we never apologized for those, either). I also sadly think that this might be one of very few articles about Belarus-topics that mighe become featured. I state that since I find little Belarussian topics online, and most of it is from the government and in Russian. I admit that I had to use Babelfish on this page, and I know some translations and spellings are a bit spotty. But thanks for your support and I will wait and see what others have to say on it. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 04:06, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Object (Resolved). There is almost no information about the heroes or why they got the reward. For example: "for the valiant service to the state and the society." is the only information we are given, leaving the reader with more questions than answers. The hero and reasons for the reward should be fleshed out if not bulked up to be FA level. Stbalbach 05:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Not much information on the heroes can be found. I managed to find a small bio on few of them, but I just need to put it down. There are some people who I cannot find information on, so I will see if people who know the language can locate something. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 14:17, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
      • Ok, I lied. I found more information on all of the heroes. It will be good for this article, since I mainly want to discuss the title. If people want to start their own articles on each hero, then of course, we need more. However, I do have links to bios/obits/stuff about each hero. Checking the images can also give you some information on each hero. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:38, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • After looking at the article, it looks to me like this objection has been resolved. →Raul654 19:51, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Object. It looks rather short to me - from lead to main, which composes of many sections that would normaly be called stub sections. A good article, on a little known subject, but not not something I would judge as a FA quality. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 08:40, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
    • The reason why the lead section is short is that there is only so much you can cover with a medal in the introduction. I tried to match my article to a FA that dealt with a medal subject: Medal of Honor. I know their lead was short, but it conveyed nearly the entire article in those two lines. I was wondering what other sections do you find short? Zscout370

(Sound Off) 14:17, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

      • I expanded the lead a bit, but I think the lead is fine now. As mentioned above, the bios have been beefed up, photos for all of the heroes have been located. Once again, I do agree this is a little known subject, but I want to have a good article about Belarus. Though, if anyone wants to move this to the Russian or Belarussian Wikipedia, let me know and I will give you all that you need to pull it off. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:38, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support A well thought out article and it compares nicely to Medal of Honor and Order of the Bath, two other featured article medals. -Husnock 00:20, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support - with caveat. Looks good, and you've got my support so long as you manage to get better translations! The Babelfishiness of those translations is pretty obvious. Grutness...wha? 05:22, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • That is my biggest concern is the translations. I know some words might be off, but I think everything should be clear now. Mainly, only exact quotes from law sources and the decrees have been translated. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 16:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
      • James, which sections do you think sound a bit Babelfishish to you? I am trying to change some of the words now. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 21:25, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
    • (answered on Zach's talk page) Grutness...wha?
      • will make the changes once the girlfriend gets offline. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:30, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
        • Girlfriend is gone, changes has been made. Thanks again James. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 01:57, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Much better (although you missed the Vladimir Karvat bit!). Assuming that's done, the caveat goes and you have full support Grutness...wha? 07:23, 20 May 2005 (UTC) (thinks... how did he write that bit about waiting for his girlfriend to get offline while she was online?)
    • She was off doing something else, so I was able to drop in a quick line. I fixed up the Karvat line, so I went ahead and crossed out the caveat statement. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 15:30, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support as expanded - much better. It may be worth starting articles on the individual recipients, as discussed above. -- ALoan (Talk) 10:10, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
    • We can do that. Since this is a version many like, I can create a few stub articles about each hero. Once I do that, I will tag it with {{Belarus-stub}} so it can be expanded later on. Thanks for the support ALoan. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 15:28, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Support, looks good! --Angr/comhrá 05:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

The voting period is now over, and the article was promoted to Featured Article Status on 24 May, 2005. I thank everyone for voting and raising any concerns, I could not make this article Featured without your help. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 12:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

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