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[edit] Henry Fonda

I think it's reached the same quality as Goomba. And of course, Kashrut. -- A Link to the Past 22:34, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

  • Support - excellent article quality, certainly worthy of featured status. And Link's worked hard to make it that way, or so (s)he leads me to believe. Rob Church 22:52, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Object. The image Image:Henryfonda1.jpg needs source and copyright information. Also, all the images in the article are under one variant of "fair use" or another. Would it be possible to get a free-use-licensed image to use as the lead image? --Carnildo 23:54, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, for one, I actually haven't done much work on this article, I just was very involved with it. I put it on the Collaboration of the Week, failed, that got someone to put it on the Bio Collaboration, that succeeded, and now, FAC. :p
    • For another, I can't vouch for the images, as I wasn't the one to add the images, so you'll have to take that up with the other contributors, hoping they notice this. -- A Link to the Past 00:06, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
      • Comment We'll be very lucky if the other contibutors happen to notice, but when you nominate something, you basically take responsibility for whatever is in the article, and also responding to any objections. There are sites such as this one right here that has a number of Henry Fonda photos all tagged as "public domain" but I'm sceptical. There's no proof and the site doesn't fill me with confidence. Carnildo do you know any places "celebrity" public domain or free use images might be found that are more reliable than the site I mentioned? Rossrs 08:35, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
        • There's a remote chance of something on the US government archives, but a simple Google search doesn't turn up anything. I can't think of anything else right off-hand; you could try writing to the estate and asking for them to release an image under GFDL or CC-BY/CC-BY-SA. There's also the chance of older newspaper photographs being out of copyright, but those would only be ones published before 1950, and would be hard to find. You might try the Library of Congress. --Carnildo 08:57, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
          • Thanks. Will do a bit of exploring. Rossrs 11:04, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
            • The image in question has been removed and replaced with a portrait believed to be under fair use as a promotional image (as well as a miniaturized poster). Volatile 16:58, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Object congratulations to the collaborators for vastly improving the article, but it still needs some work. The lead need to be more than one paragraph. Through there are far too many one and two sentence paragraphs that should either be expanded or merged. The references are all to autobiographies of Fonda family members, which doesn't seem like a guarantee for neutrality. - SimonP 12:55, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
    • Well, RedWordSmith offered to buy a copy of 12 Angry Men and take a screen-capture of Juror #8, would that work?
    • Yes, I thought about it after I posted it here, that I should've informed others. >.>
    • And, I'll give a stab at improving those sentence paragraphs. -- A Link to the Past 13:21, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
      • Additional, more neutral, references have been added. Volatile 19:06, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
        • The lead section has been rewritten and the text copyedited as well. Volatile 19:50, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
          • Support. Good work, it's now a great article. - SimonP 22:03, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Factual inaccuracy: From the Oxford American National Biography: "On 14 April 1950, while Fonda was still playing Roberts, his wife, who had placed herself in a sanatorium, committed suicide after it became clear that Fonda was seeing another woman named Susan Blanchard. Less than a year later, Fonda and Blanchard were married, and Fonda adopted her daughter Amy." The article states he was Amy's biological father? lots of issues | leave me a message 22:40, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

  • I checked up on that and fixed the article. Fonda didn't adopt Blanchard's daughter, rather they adopted a daughter together (adopted in New York in 1953). The Fonda family tree corroborates this. [1] Thanks for pointing this out. Volatile 23:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
  • minor mistake? The University Players Guild is identified as local to "Cape Cod". A google search reveals no one else identifying it this way. It's located in Falmouth, MA. Mistake? lots of issues | leave me a message 01:21, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
According to this: "With Bretaigne Windust, [Joshua Logan] co-founded the University Players, an intercollegiate summer stock company (in Cape Cod) whose members included Henry Fonda, Margaret Sullavan and James Stewart." The cite at the NY Times: [2] also calls it the University Players. This article about Stewart[3] says he acted with the UP in Falmouth and "Again in Cape Cod," so maybe they moved. I'm changing the name in the article. Kaisershatner 17:41, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Also: "He earned a Tony nomination for his role in 1974's Mister Roberts and finished his career with the critically acclaimed On Golden Pond in 1981." He won a Tony in 1948 for Mister Roberts. Did he reprise it and get nominated? lots of issues | leave me a message 01:29, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
    • The 1974 thing was a typo. The 1974 nomination was for Clarence Darrow, not Mister Roberts. Looking at a Massachusetts map, I see Falmouth is at the base of Cape Cod. I guess you could make a case against the wording because it's not literally on the cape portion (the finger of land enclosing the bay). I'm leaving it for now, but it can be taken either way. Once again, thanks for the fact checking. Great work! In the future, you might want to take smaller issues to the Henry Fonda talk page. Volatile 02:13, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Support - I guess it's about time I support the article. The article's the most comprehensive of any article/biography I've seen on Fonda (besides his own written biography) and flows relatively well from start to finish. Volatile 02:13, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Conditional support, I'm sure everything in the see also list is already in the text, so is there any reason it can't be deleted? Also the list of awards is bloating the TOC and is hard to follow, could they be condensed into a table?--nixie 01:42, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

  • The issues have been addressed. Thanks. Volatile 03:07, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks for your speedy response. It's a definate support now.--nixie 03:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
      • I would've done it, but it would've sucked considering how bewildered I was. And it wouldn't have been as good. -- A Link to the Past 03:21, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

Support - absolutely! Good, comprehensive article, the table for "awards" is a huge improvement. -- Rossrs 10:04, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

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