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[edit] Carlsbad Caverns National Park

Nominated by Bevo 03:08, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

• Object. After reading the article I still have no idea where it is located. -- Kaihsu 18:17, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
  • Several days ago I added a small state map of NM that highlights the approximate location. Bevo 02:35, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • I have to say that when I read it there was no location information. (See history of that page) -- Kaihsu 08:30, 2004 Feb 27 (UTC)
  • Objection withdrawn, but not a vote in support. -- Kaihsu 11:39, 2004 Feb 27 (UTC)
  • standard Natl Park LocMap now in place - Bevo 22:26, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
• I really think a map with a dot (ideally on a topographical map, since this is about a geographical feature) showing the exact location is called for, not just highlighting the county. Other questions remain unanswered: What are the altitudes of the highest/lowest points? If it's "one of the largest" cave complexes, what are its competitors? What fraction of it is publicly accessible? (Aren't there any bats living in the public areas? There usually are in the caves I've visited before...but the article says that their "darkened homes are only visible to scientific researchers".) Steven G. Johnson 07:27, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • "map with a dot" now instantiated - Bevo 22:26, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • bat material rewritten by Kingturtle. (see below)
• Approve. "Southeastern New Mexico" is a very good description of its location (there are hardly any people in this region, so you can't miss it if you simply drive! Just follow the other cars and you will get there. It's not like California, where there are millions of competing stories). Ancheta Wis 02:23, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
• Approve. I just gave it a nice edit. I did, however, remove much of the Mexican Freetail Bat details. That should be its own article....maybe someday a FEATURE article? :) Kingturtle 19:43, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
• Not an objection, but I would like to see a national park table (see Yellowstone National Park). Come to think of it, complying to relevant WikiProjects may be a good criteria for being a featured article. --mav 11:30, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Yes, a table like the one in Yellowstone National Park would make a great addition to the article. In fact, I'm not ready to withdraw this one from nomination, but that Yellowstone article is a much better article overall than this one, at this time. I suppose one side-effect of this nomination process is to get ideas on how an article can be approved, even if it never makes it to the FA list. - Bevo 19:02, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • Please make one - I see from the rules above that a basic criteria for being featured is conformance to relevant WikiProjects. --mav
  • I added a LocMap that I created from the template image at Image:Map of USA.png. It would be nice now to get it and the stats into a table format like Yellowstone National Park. - Bevo 20:27, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Added stats to LocMap table Plus some touch up to section headings and links. - Bevo 16:29, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
• Support as it is, a very enjoyable article. I would however love to see some more photographs, especially of the bats at dusk, and the cave paintings (if these are still distinct). fabiform | talk 01:43, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)