Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Aspasia

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[edit] Aspasia

The article has been rewritten and expanded by me. It has gone through two peer-reviews (Wikipedia:Peer review/Aspasia and Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/Aspasia). I thought it was the right time for this nomination.--Yannismarou 06:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Comments A "See also" section might be a good addition, as would a description of any references to her in modern literature. TimVickers 16:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• I added a section "References in Modern Literature". I hope I covered the topic, although it was really tough to find material. I placed this sub-section under a new section "References in philosophy and literature". I thought this was the right section, but I'm opet to suggestions.
• As a result of the creation of the new section, I had to expand the "References" section and to create a new section "Further Reading".
• I created a "See also" section, but I'm not sure about its necessity. It is a bit short and I think all the important links are already linked in the main prose. Thanks for the suggestions.--Yannismarou 08:19, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

• "See also" sections are not necessary, and should be used only if important links have not been included in the body; the absence of one is not an obstacle to FA status. --Robth^Talk 14:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

• Support. I tweaked the wording here and there, but this is clearly ready for FA status. It's thoroughly researched, comprehensive, and engaging; well done. --Robth^Talk 14:30, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

• Support - great work Yannismarou and Robth, another superb ancient Greece article.--Aldux 11:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
  • I just made a few tiny wording tweaks; this one's all Yannismarou.--Robth^Talk 14:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
    • And Bcasterline, who reviewed the article and helped with the prose.--Yannismarou 15:27, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
      • Sorry Yannismarou; and sorry to Bcasterline also, for not mentioning him.--Aldux 17:13, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

• Support - it's flawless. Also, we shouldn't be sexists, especially after Pericles FA now, should we? :-) Congrats Yanni! •NikoSilver• 14:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
• Support with some remarks: 1) is her Ancient or Modern Greek name shown, I don't know the difference here; 2) "...a renowned woman in ancient Greece, famous for her romantic involvement with the Athenian statesman Pericles". A more exact affiliation and/or influence on Pericles would be better; 3) I saw her original marble statue in encyclopedia, may be that photo would be better if possible. --Brand спойт 13:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• It is her ancient name. But the modern Greek name is actually the same. About her affiliation with Pericles I've exposed all the available information. It is not easy to find such a picture free of intellectual rights. I feel the current picture serves well its purpose. Thanks!--Yannismarou 13:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
• How about: "...a renowned woman in ancient Greece, famous for her influence and romantic involvement with the Athenian statesman Pericles..." •NikoSilver• 13:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Is this syntactically correct? In any case, I donot think this is a major issue, since I say in the lead that Aspasia "is regarded by modern scholars as an exceptional person who distinguished herself due to her political influence and intellectual charisma. However, almost nothing is certain about her life." The conclusion of the last proposition is the major problem. The events connected with Aspasia's alleged influence on Pericles (triggering of both the Samian and the Peloponnesian War, writng of the Funeral Oration) are based on fames, rumors and disputed sources. Hence, I wouldn't like to present in the lead as a fact, an assessment (her influence on Pericles), which is still not fully verified and not accepted by all the scholars. On the other hand, her erotic attachment with Pericles is something verified and confirmed by all the sources. So, my point is that we are still not sure about the nature, the kind and the level of Aspasia's influence on Pericles.--Yannismarou 18:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

• Correct. My bad. Strike my proposal, (oh, and #2 of Brand above too?)...•NikoSilver• 21:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)