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[edit] Alan Moore

This article is currently a good article, it has been a Comics Collaboration of the Month and has addressed the majority of issues from the previous two nominations.[1][2]. I believe this article is ready, and I am prepared to handle any objections which may arise.--DCAnderson 19:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Object. Move the list to a new page. --Maitch 21:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Done--DCAnderson 21:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

There might be a more clever way to incorporate the link to the list, but I will withdraw my objection. --Maitch 21:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

• Object. I found another objection. The fair use images needs fair use rationales. --Maitch 21:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I just added a little blurb to each picture explaining why specifically it is Fair Use in the Alan Moore article.--DCAnderson 21:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

It has to be more detailed. Please read Wikipedia:Image_description_page#Fair_use_rationale. --Maitch 21:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll work on something, but could you maybe point to a similar image in a similar article thatyou believe is an example of how it should be? I don't know if there is a whole lot I can think of to say beyond "this image is being used as an example of something by Alan Moore."

Are there images in this article that you believe will never justify fair use and can be cut entirely?--DCAnderson 21:58, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I've made the fair use rationales be more like the ones you listed here[3]--DCAnderson 22:36, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

They seem to be alright now. Images that don't have a function in the article besides looking pretty will never justify fair use even if it is related to Alan Moore. The ones in this article are book covers and are only used in sections about the corresponding book, so therefore they add significant value to the article. However, I'm a little bit worried about Image:V for vendettax.jpg and Image:Swampthingmoore21.jpg not being low resolution. --Maitch 07:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well both those pictures are nowhere near full size, so they are at the least, lower esolution than the original. I personally don't have the software to edit them, so someone else is going to have to do it if it is a problem.--DCAnderson 00:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

• Strong support - Very comprehensive article on an influential late 20th century writer. Next best thing to talking to Alan Moore himself! Tombseye 20:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Object. Not really referenced well enough, lots of paragraphs and facts are missing footnotes. See WP:FOOTNOTE. — Wackymacs 20:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

• Oppose, for a number of reasons, many unresolved from the last FAC

1. Biographical information still lacks details on his marital status
2. There are quote and references to opinions that really should have a source cited inline, the biography and major works section are both problematic, with no evidence for the source of direct quotes.
3. In the major works section, Swamp Thing and From Hell are disproportionately long. The section on Watchmen (arguably his most famous work) is poorly written and underdeveloped. Promethea could also be added to this section, as -interestingly- it is a comic about the authors mystical ideas, and one of the few comics with an interesting female protagonist. As is the reader could get the impression that Moore hasn't written anything major since 1988, which simply isn't true.
4. Poor development on of detail on this religious beliefs which get a brief mention in the lead (why?) and nothing more.
5. Terra Obsucra should probably be in the list of Americans Best Comics releases
6. Current work is underdeveloped and Albion is out, what is he currently working on? Does he appear at cons? Why is he having ideas and getting other people to write the comics (Albion, Terra Obscura)?

--Peta 05:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)