Talk:Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (novel)

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[edit] French Fry Factory

So, I took this out because it sounds pretty suspect and no evidence is offered:

One incident in controversy involves Thompson and his ordeals at the Ore-Ida French Fry Factory. The book fails to cover these significant events which Thompson later describes as "poignant and life changing."


[edit] 1996 Spoken Word Adaptation

Does anyone know much about this?

The audio book is VERY good too, anyone know the voice actor's names?

[edit] Film Adaptation available on the internet

Someone (almost certainly not the copyright holder) uploaded the entire feature film to Google Video; a higher-resolution 900 megabyte file is also downloadable from Google. I have added a reference to its availability in the text, and a link to "external links." Since the feature is not likely to remain available for long, please delete these if/when the link goes dead. TYIA.

Someone removed the link to the full length film, and I restored it.

Google claims to review and approve uploaded video content [see here]. There is no reason to deny users of the wiki access to this resource on the basis of copyright fears. Even if the placement of the video online is a copyright violation, a link to that placement is not. If there is stated wiki policy that forbids such linking, please point me to it.Bustter 22:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I located the following policy statement:

"Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page in question is not violating someone else's copyright. If it is, please do not link to the page. Whether such a link is contributory infringement is currently being debated in the courts, but in any case, linking to a site that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on us. If the site in question is making fair use of the material, linking is OK."

If a link to a copyright infringement is shown to be a "contributory infringement," then a link to a link is as well; therefor ALL links are "contributory infringement," no? Anyway, I'm removing the link again, under protest.

Here's the removed "contributory infringement":

The complete feature film at Google Video

Bustter 22:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Can somebody tell what happend in the year 1544 ? "There was evidence, in this room, of excessive consumption of almost every type of drug known to civilized man since 1544 AD (Thompson 188)." Max Plenert 12:32, 4 Jan 2005 (GMT)

  • Maybe this (from Wikipedia...): 1544 - Italian botanist Luca Ghini publishes the first herbarium.
    • Good hint, thank you ! --- Max Plenert 10:47, 23 Feb 2006 (GMT)
  • Or perhaps this (from British History Online: "about the year 1544 refining of sugar was first used in England." The article goes on to explain some of the history of sugar refinement (turning moist brown sugar into dry white sugar).

If anyone is interested, the DVD release of the movie version was banned in Australia (theoretically a third world country, go figure)... The strange thing was that the film was originally released in cinemas, and the VHS version is (was?) also available. If anyone has more information it would be much appreciated. --postglock 16:14, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Weird, found it for sale in a store recently, maybe the video store clerk didn't know what he was talking about, or it is only for sale and not available for rental. (or was subsequently let through) --postglock 06:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Never mind all of that - Just tell me about the golf shoes?!

  • Am I the only one who thinks the novel and the film should have separate articles? -- Pele Merengue 18:53, 20 Jan 2006 (GMT)
  • I'm inclined to agree with you. But, what about all the intense collaboration between Dr. Thompson and Johnny Depp? Not to mention collaboration with other cast and crew.

[edit] What kind of novel is it?

The first sentence describes the book as a novel. Is it more accurately a roman à clef? -- Runnerupnj 04:35, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Sure. It definitely has (apocryphal, hyperbolic) elements of autobiography. I wouldn't be opposed if you wanted to describe the novel such. · Katefan0(scribble) 04:39, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Right, but know that roman à clef is a form of novel: the terms don't oppose each other. And remember that we don't know how much of this book is based on reality... the peculiar relationship in it between fiction and journalistic truth is what partly prompted the term "gonzo" as opposed to other classifications. —Tarnas 22:38, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Food

Why do we assume they didn't have anyone else with them on the trip? "Two shrimp coctails, two more shrimp coctails. One, two, three, four club sandwiches. And, nine fresh grapefruit." Would they really be ordering extra shrimp coctails to eat later?

maybe, maybe not, it always could've been that they, i don't know...wanted two each? It's not that big a meal especially if your on so many appetite supporting drugs and very little coke. To answer your first question, because he never mentions anyone else being with them. Fair basis for an assumption, yes? ReverendG 05:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Book and the Film...

...should have separate articles. And a disambig. Tenebrous 10:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree with you. I just made separate articles to fi.wikipedia.org and I find that it is much better that way. After all the book and the film are two whole different things.
I agree as well. Shall we split the articles, yes? 87.11.230.89 19:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, do it, or I will. :-) --05:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
If it isn't done in a week, I will. Or sooner. Depends on when soberity finds me.

[edit] Mapping out journey in google earth

I'd like some assistance in doing a project of mapping out the journey on google earth, anyone want to help? I uploaded the KMZ file so far on here http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=403926&page=0&vc=#Post403926 Jackpot Den 23:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

How do you intend to map the part where Dr. Gonzo flies back to California, only to be waiting for Duke at the Flamingo Hotel? "It's all a big joke. I'm actually sitting poolside; talking to you on a portable phone some dwarf brought out from the bar. Don't come anywhere near this place! Foreigners aren't welcome here."

[edit] Changes to the images

I suggest the images for the book and the dvd are changed. The original artwork for the book is depicted on the DVD cover, and the original Artwork for the film is depicted on the book. If someone is prepared to provide an originial artwork dvd/poster for the film, I can upload the cover of my book with the original art. Jackpot Den 23:45, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Rumors about real drug abuse in the movie

I have heard that Johnny Depp and Benicio Del Toro actually used real drugs during the shooting of the movie. I assume this is just a rumor (as authentic drug abuse in a movie presumably would be strictly prohibited in the US), but does anyone know enough to verify/falsify this claim? Mogura 12:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a pretty far-fetched rumour... It's not mentioned on IMDB - so I'd leave it out. To avoid libel. -- the GREAT Gavini 19:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
The use of narcotics has always been severely frowned upon in the American film industry. I wouldn't pay these rumors any mind. --24.58.13.127 02:56, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split the articles!

I really think the articles for book and film should be splitted. Also the differences in the plots could be mentioned.

Golfshoes, by the way, give better grip on slippy terrain.

[edit] Comment

There should be a section on the various attempts to adapt the book as a film. (Ibaranoff24 18:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC))

[edit] "Wave speech"

I just fixed up the "wave speech" to match the punctuation and italics in my copy (paperback, '90s-ish, ISBN 0-679-72419-2). If anyone has a more primary-sourcey copy (such as the Rolling Stone originals, I guess!), feel free to re-correct. Also, I think my wikification kind of detracts from the impact of the piece, but we really need explication somewhere of "the Fillmore" and what a "650 Lightning" is, and bluelinks seemed like the easiest way to go. --Quuxplusone 06:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and the quote does leave off the first two sentences of the first paragraph: "Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years ago? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era — the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special, etc." (And what's a Main Era, do you think? A yuga? Or just a mystic phrase that sounds good in this context?)

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