Talk:Farmer
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Do you know how hard it is to resist the urge to add Philip José Farmer to the list of famous farmers? - wonko 15:48, Aug 26, 2003 (UTC)
[edit] 2 Complaints
A) all the notable farmers but one are American (too much regional bias). Consider that most human beings that have ever lived in the history of the plant earth were farmers. They lived in all parts of the globe and during all epochs of history for the last 6000 years. Limiting your list of farmers to a few US presidents is ridiculous in the extreme. The List should be deleted, or limited to people famous FOR farming, rather then famous people who happened to farm.
B) a separate article "agriculturalist" should be split off from this article for people who study agriculture in a scholarly or professional way.
Kevlar67 14:28, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- A list of 5 or six names is hardly too long for this article. If the list were dozens, a separate list would be advisable. Carter, the "peanut farmer from Georgia", and Jefferson, an early advocate of scientific farming, were indeed both famous for farming. Adding famous farmers from other cultures is encouraged - no one has limited the list to only include U.S. Presidents. Rmhermen 14:00, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't say the list was too long. I said I couldn't possibly be long enough to do justice to all the possible farmers who could be included. If you really want me to start naming all the famous farmers I can think of, then I will. But I can see this turning into nasty fight about whether people who aren't as famous as ex-presidents, are famous enough or not. I'll just start with Grant MacEwan (agriculturalist, writer, politician), Herbert Greenfield (Premier of Alberta, leader of the United Farmers of Alberta), and Iwan Pylypow Ukrainian Canadian pioneer.
- I have no complaints about the first two, although Greenfield's article only implies that he was a farmer, it doesn't elaborate - which I think Jefferson's article fails at also. The third doesn't seem particularly famous for anything. Rmhermen 17:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well he's famous for a being a "first". Just like the Mayflower pilgrims. Anyway, here are some more famous farmers: Tony Martin (farmer), Michael Eavis, Sidney Kidman, Thomas Chirnside, James Tyson, Masanobu Fukuoka, Rudolf Steiner, J. G. Boswell, and Lee Kyung Hae. And then of course there's Category:American farmers, if those aren't enough for you. Kevlar67 00:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- I think we need to dispute neturality. I'm goin to add the "POV Section template" until there' an agreeable sense of global integrity and neutrality here.
- --lincalinca 23:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well he's famous for a being a "first". Just like the Mayflower pilgrims. Anyway, here are some more famous farmers: Tony Martin (farmer), Michael Eavis, Sidney Kidman, Thomas Chirnside, James Tyson, Masanobu Fukuoka, Rudolf Steiner, J. G. Boswell, and Lee Kyung Hae. And then of course there's Category:American farmers, if those aren't enough for you. Kevlar67 00:30, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have no complaints about the first two, although Greenfield's article only implies that he was a farmer, it doesn't elaborate - which I think Jefferson's article fails at also. The third doesn't seem particularly famous for anything. Rmhermen 17:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't say the list was too long. I said I couldn't possibly be long enough to do justice to all the possible farmers who could be included. If you really want me to start naming all the famous farmers I can think of, then I will. But I can see this turning into nasty fight about whether people who aren't as famous as ex-presidents, are famous enough or not. I'll just start with Grant MacEwan (agriculturalist, writer, politician), Herbert Greenfield (Premier of Alberta, leader of the United Farmers of Alberta), and Iwan Pylypow Ukrainian Canadian pioneer.
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I believe the page is visually crap due to the abuse of bold tags. I'd much rather see use of italics where bold has been used. An article doesn't have flow and is disjuncted when it uses bold text within a sentence. I'm going to remove them all and replace them with italics until I can be convinced that it belongs like it is. --lincalinca 23:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)