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[edit] Your edits toInternet Movie Database and Oral sex

Please do not remove valid links to other Wikipedia projects. The Indonesian articles exist for both these topics, therefore there is no reason to remove the links. Fan-1967 16:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination for Euromalays article

Hello. You may want to have your views regarding the legitimacy of the article heard on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euromalays instead of just posting them on Talk:Euromalays. Best regards. —Lagalag 10:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi there, I listed my reasons in the AfD nomination. Thanks. --Chris S. 13:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

For everyone's benefit, can you explain further on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euromalays what's the difference between Euromalays and other, more well-known terms like serani on ? BTW I'm from Malaysia and of mixed race, but I'd never heard the term Euromalay until today; Wikipedia has a policy against original research which, among other things, means we shouldn't use neologisms as the names of articles; I don't see that the term Euromalay has any scholarly acceptance, which is why I suggest that renaming the article might be the best way to save it from deletion. Cheers. cab 17:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi. I'm sorry for the late reply - been busy recently. Anyway, I've managed to change the Euromalays article to European Malays - understanding that I shouldn't be inventing new words that have no cited sources other than Wikipedia. So, how's my new article going? --Fantastic4boy 07:21, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi cab. Thank you for your comments this matter and for letting me realise that my "Euromalay" article (since that it's neologism) is going against policy since that is it not related to original research and that scholarly unacceptable. I'm not sure whether or not you have received this response, but this was my reply to you regarding Euromalays. As we have discussed earlier on, Serani is a Malay term for Eurasian, in which it refers to people with European and Asian parentage regardless of what the Asian background is. I thank you for your generosity in advising me on such matter and I have made some corrections regarding that article. I have decided moved the article Euromalays to European-Malays, in which it is a term used to qualify both Malay and European characteristics, or should I change to European-Malay ancestry to avoid conflict with Wikipedia policy? What do you think?

Hi there. The text does make sense, besides containing a lot of useful information pertaining to people of mixed Malay and European descent. As for Filipinos being Malay, I’ve lived in the Philippines all my life and yes, ethnic Filipinos in general do consider themselves Malay. Even José Rizal, considered our greatest national hero, was once dubbed the “Pride of the Malay Race”. —Lagalag 12:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. We very much appreciate and value the work you are doing here, especially with regards to Malay-related articles. Keep up the good work and best regards. —Lagalag 07:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wilfred Hamilton-Shimmen

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[edit] Maya Karin

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[edit] Speedy deletion notice

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[edit] History of conversion from Judaism to Islam

I have moved it back. See the talk page and the AfD, at which it was resolved that "Muslim Jew" and the like is not a good name. - crz crztalk 03:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

I have speedily deleted the inflammatory image "Image:Allah star.JPG" you created. - crz crztalk 13:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hilaly

Do you have acess to material about Hilaly? I have found a biography but it is not a verifiable, reliable source. http://forums.muslimvillage.net/lofiversion/index.php/t27683.html For this article I need verifiable reputable sources. SmithBlue 05:57, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

I've just found some helpful links that could verify reputable sources. Hope they'd satisfy the resource materials u're looking for:

And to consider that Prophet Muhammad mentioned that “No Arab is superior to a non-Arab and no non-Arab is superior to an Arab. No white man is superior to a black man, and no black man is superior to a white man.” [1], Sheik Hilaly has breached the Islamic ruling by stating that Muslims should have more rights than the Anglo-Saxons in Australia. [2] Remember that Muslims are not only for the Arabs but also for other races. Furthermore, doesn't he realise that there are a number of Anglo-Muslims like Yvonne Ridley and Yusuf Estes (former Christian preacher now a Muslim Chaplain) [3] and that this would certainly offend them?

Anything else that you'd like to know? Please do let me know when you do. --Fantastic4boy 14:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Fantastic4boy thanks for the links - I havent got the software for the video and so cant watch it -is it the Egyptian TV interview - I've seen that on www.youtube.com We have the translation in this article already.

Am after reputable sources for the following;

  • Sheikh Tajeddine was born the eldest of eight children.
  • at the age of 17 he then went on to formally study at Al Alazhar University and graduated from there four years later with an International Certificate for Islamic Religion and Arabic Language. The last two years of his education he spent specialising in Shariah Law. After graduation he worked for two years as a judge of Islamic law in the Family Court of Egypt.
  • speaking out against social injustice and the very low standard of living of people in general, he angered the government and was arrested two or three times over a couple of years.
  • In his early thirties Sheikh Tajeddine accepted a position to be an Imam in a mosque in Libya and moved their with his wife and young daughter Shayma.
  • speaking out against the communist Gaddafi regime and it's injustices to the people.
  • 5 years in Libya, he spent the next 3 years between Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Lebanon, but being mainly based in Lebanon, unfortunately during the peak of the Lebanese civil war.
  • In 1982, after speaking out against a massacre that took place that led to the slaughter of thousands of people, an assassination attempt was made on his life by some unidentified gunmen.
  • In 1983 the Mufti of Lebanon sent Sheikh Tajeddine to Australia to become the Imam of Lakemba Mosque
  • 1983 Sheikh Sheikh Tajeddine left his wife and two daughters behind in Lebanon
  • 1989, was granted his Australian citizenship.
  • instrumental in the establishment of the first Muslims Women's Association in Australia
  • written many books
  • has attendedIslamic conferences through out the Muslim world.

Also would like to find; what sort of Muslim is he? (Shiite?, Sunni?), how was he selected to be the Iman at Lakemba?, what duties does he have at the Lakemba Mosque?, Are there 2 Mosques in Lakemba? Cause there are 2 Imams in Lakemba - see Lakemba Mosque discusion for details. Is this usual? SmithBlue 14:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

SmithBlue Interesting information on Hilaly. I'm not sure whether Hilaly is Sunni or Shiite. I'll do more reasearch on the area you want to know about and let you know here if I find any more reliable sources on Sheik Hilaly. --Fantastic4boy 23:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Fantastic4boy, if you've got time could you tell me where I might find out more about "Dar ul Fatwa of Lebanon" on the web? thanks SmithBlue 11:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malay people picture

To my knowledge Rasuna Said is a Minangkabau, not a Malay. They are two distinct ethnic groups. (MichaelJLowe 12:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC))

I do acknowledge that Rasuna Said is a Minangkabau. However, despite being matrilineal, the Minangkabaus show lots of similarity with the Malays in terms of individual houses in the kampongs, the costumes and music. If I'm not mistaken, the Minangkabaus in Malaysia are accepted as an ethnic Malays since that they practise a culture similar to the Malays. I can't really attach the music and video files here though but I can have a look on the internet for you. --Fantastic4boy 03:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I haven't made my statements clear to you. Furthermore, I'd like to add on that the article is not only referring to the Malays of eastern Sumatra, Malay peninsula, parts of Borneo and southern Thailand, but basically those who are anthropologically Malays, i.e. related by their language and physique. Filipinos themselves are Austronesians yet a Filipino hero such as Jose Rizal, who is part native of the Philippines, is dubbed as "Pride of the Malay race" (see European Malays) - yet their culture isn't as much related to Malays unlike the Minangkabaus. Thus, I think it'll be alright to state Rasuna Said based on the discussions I've made above.
Please provide citations for this claim and any of the claims made in the Malay article, otherwise the whole Malay article is a total falsehood. I can provide a stack of citations which show that the Malay ethic group is distinct from the Minang ethic group. I suggest you start by looking at the last Indonesian census (for 2000) which lists Malays and Minangkabau as a distinct groups. Next, I suggest you take a look at Encyclopedia Briticanna which also doesn't support any of the claims made in the Malay article. The problem in Malaysia is that the term Malay has become hijacked by politicians. Rather than swallowing their propaganda and regurgitating it on Wikipedia, I suggest you start hitting the books and open your eyes to the truth. (MichaelJLowe 08:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC))
I know you that you'd disagree with me and may consider me like a "Malay Supremacist", but I'm not making up my statements on the Minangkabaus being Malays. I'd be gladly to give you the cited sources. I'm not basing my facts on some bias Malaysian politician propaganda stating the validity for a group of people as "Malays" and I'm not regurgitating them as you think I am. The Minangkabau article states that the Minangkabaus are of Malay stock - "The Minang people belong to the Malay stock" [4]. Demographics for Reference.com and Sumatra Infomarmation: "The people are of Malay stock composed of many different tribes, speaking 52 different languages. Most of these groups, however, share many similar traditions and the different tongues are closely related." [5][6] The Acehnese [7] and Bugis [8] are considered Malays due to their relations as part of the Malay stock yet they are still considered as separate ethnic groups. Is there anything else you would like me to find out? I'd be happy to provide you with books on Minangkabau people to see whether they are related to the Malay stock/part of the Malay sub-family if you want. That'll take some time since that I have other work to do for the rest of the week. I'll leave my comments here with the citations of author and the books when I find them. --Fantastic4boy 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Just to clarify on the Malays article, to my scrutinised observation, the purpose of the article is not to define and explain about ethnic Malays but rather the Malay racial stock consisting of different ethnic groups, in which it includes linguistic relations to each other. --Fantastic4boy 23:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Again, you don't seem to understand. When you find a single reliable source (WP:RS) let me know (on my talk page, since I'm not going to be monitoring your talk page). Please don't just quote the rubbish you find on the Internet (including Wikipedia). I'm looking for reliable peer reviewed academic citations. (MichaelJLowe 23:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Talk page comments

I am removing some of your comments of January 13th at Talk:Taj El-Din Hilaly. Talk pages are not to be used to express negative (or positive) things about the subject of the article except in the context of improving the article. Another editor has already noted the problem with not complying with WP:TALK; I'm removing it (and changing the section title) as part of cleanoup of the talk page. Please do not put the comment back. John Broughton | ♫ 19:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page comments

Wikipedia:Etiquette. Wikipedia:Civility and WP:PA are some issues that you may wish to consider in relation to your acitvity on user talk pages - you should think first, perhaps even go away from the issue for a while. SatuSuro 01:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rights of prisoners

Islamic jurisprudence might had some rules to deal with them, but to the best of my knowledge, a major source of slaves within the institution of slavery at the advent of Islam were the prisoners of war. The Qur'an rooted this out by legislating that prisoners of war should be freed at all costs, either by accepting ransom or as a favour by not taking any ransom money. No other option was available to the Muslims (kindly see 47:4). And also there is no punishment in Qur'an or hadith that is related to prinson. Hence, I personally believe that this question is not raised at all. For more information, kindly see "Slavery" in Mizan. Cheers! TruthSpreaderreply 04:35, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] European Malays/Arab Malays

You might want to read my comments at the AfD of these two articles. While I feel that Turkish Malays is indeed not very notable, I feel that the articles of these two topics are notable. To me, I feel that the Weterners feel that they are non-notable because they lacked the understanding of the history of SE Asian history and sociology. Practically, I feel that we should ask the opinions of the Malays and non-Malays of Singapore and Malaysia. Call up the members of Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Singapore and Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Malaysia. Let's access their opinions. Vote your part in the Afd too: [9] [10]. Thanks. Mr Tan 07:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your comments and thank you for the helpful suggestions, Mr Tan. There are actually small communities such as Turkish Malays, Arab Malays and European Malays (Eurasians with mixed Malay and European descent) but it's difficult to prove their existence . If only I could find more resources that would make the mentioned communities notable to prove at a satisfactory academic level, then I'll. I may need more time for this since that I have uni assignments to finish up this week. I see what I can do. --Fantastic4boy 03:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some of your edits and creations relating to Islam articles

You might want to take a look at WP:RS#Extremist sources, WP:OR, and WP:NPOV. I noticed some of your edits include origional research, and information from extremist websites quoted as fact. Try to use scholarly sources in future edits.--Sefringle 03:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Templete for quran and hadith

I noticed in some of your edits you were quoting the quran and hadith. For future quran and hadith quotations/references, please use the USC-MSA templete as mentionded below. This templete makes a link to the quranic verse or hadith. This makes it easier others to view the verse, since they can view it from the USC-MSA website [11] by just clicking on the link. This website provides an online translation of the quran and hadith. It works like this:

For quranic verse 8:10, enter {{Quran-usc|8|10}}.
This will allow people to just click on the link and view the verse as 8:10.
For hadith quotes, to show Sahih Bukhari 8:73:68, enter {{Bukhari|8|73|68}}. --Sefringle 03:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Sefingle. I have just noticed something was missing, but thanks for pointing out to me. --Fantastic4boy 05:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Social rights in Islam

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[edit] Prisoner Rights in Islam

Hey! I believe you created this article Prisoners rights in Islam. I think you shoudl exapnd this article from info from Islamic military jurisprudence article. Look under "Prisoners of War". If you need more info, feel free to contact me (User:Bless_sins, bless_sins@yahoo.ca), as I can pull out some resources on the topic. Pls. do expand this article!Bless sins 16:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Environmental protection in Islam

Fantastic4boy, I have some sources on this(From Encyclopedia of Religion and Nature). Please send me an email and I'll reply you back with the sources (I can not attach it myself from wikipedia email). Thanks --Aminz 08:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Malays picture

It could be improved by including at least one female. Also, Yusof bin Ishak may not be the best Malay example since he is half Minangkabau. (MichaelJLowe 09:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC))

Sorry, my area of expertise is mostly Minangkabau. (MichaelJLowe 09:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Battle of Najaf 2007

Hi Fantastic4boy, I'm editing Battle of Najaf (2007). I have found a satelite image of the area. But it doesnt have locality names written on it. What it does have is "notes" written on it in Arabic. If you read Arabic I would be very interested to know what the notes say. Satelite image at [|Satelite image Najaf and Zarqa (?Zarga)] SmithBlue 09:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images you have uploaded

I notice you have uploaded alot of images and tagged them with the Creative Commons license. Do you have permission from the websites you have taken these images from to upload these images to Wikipedia with this license? You should probably read Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Adding_images. (MichaelJLowe 07:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC))

Fantastic Boy, I've noticed you initially gave another website credit for these photos. Now you are saying you took them. Can you provide the original higher resolution photos. Otherwise it is hard to believe that you took them and that you are not simply plagiarising. --Merbabu 09:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dravidians in Hong Kong

The reason your edits to the Dravidian people home page were reverted had nothing to do with how correct they were. They were reverted by a user (Geomatician) who's been disrupting many Indian-related pages, and seems to have picked on this one as a particular favourite. Feel free to just revert his edits entirely rather than painstakingly adding back in the bits you put (thanks for the info by the way - it's useful data for the article). Orpheus 01:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islam and slavery lead

Dear interested editor:
Please visit here: [12] in the next few days and give your vote and your proposals on how the lead may be reworked and reformed to meet GA criteria before next nomination.DavidYork71 04:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

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